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Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI don't care what Jeff calls it. The original name sucked. The problem is that this one sucks too for different reasons. He needed a name that captured the distinctive quality of the board, and as someone noted, sports or BYU sports isn't really the main part of that. There IS something unique about this place that could attract a wider following, and it's not that utefans and cougarboard refugees were the founders. This looks like Cougarboard's little brother. Yawn. This name is too generic too. How many teams are called Cougars? No imagination. Progmoblog would have been better.
There is even money to be made on Intenet sites if the branding is right. About.com recently sold for about $300 million (I expect to start seeing testosterone supplement and smart phone ads here soon).
Let's face it. Jeff has the highest IQ here, he's a great engineer. He has failed at naming this place. Two times a loser.
Hard to disagree with this. Apparently JL heard the name cougarstadium.com a few years ago, liked it (nothing wrong with that), but then after three years became attached to the name didn't significantly consider much else. The decision to name the board seems to greatly lack creativity. It's a bad name, even worse than courgaruteforum.
My question: What would it have hurt to ask for some suggestions from the board before deciding on the name? You don't like any of the ideas hundreds of very intelligent people might come up with? You stick with cougarstadium. No harm, no foul.
I understand JL can do what he wants with his board and it's really not a big deal, I just don't understand the thought process.I'm like LeBron James.
-mpfunk
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So de-emphasize sports and change it to a website focused primarily on religious discussion? No thanks.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI don't care what Jeff calls it. The original name sucked. The problem is that this one sucks too for different reasons. He needed a name that captured the distinctive quality of the board, and as someone noted, sports or BYU sports isn't really the main part of that. There IS something unique about this place that could attract a wider following, and it's not that utefans and cougarboard refugees were the founders. This looks like Cougarboard's little brother. Yawn. This name is too generic too. How many teams are called Cougars? No imagination. Progmoblog would have been better.
lol.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostThere is even money to be made on Intenet sites if the branding is right. About.com recently sold for about $300 million (I expect to start seeing testosterone supplement and smart phone ads here soon).
Let's face it. Jeff has the highest IQ here, he's a great engineer. He has failed at naming this place. Two times a loser."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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The other thing is, he should have consulted everyone. This is not ESPN or Daily Beast. Jeff is not Tina Brown. It's worthless without the content and following the members provide, more like a coop. See, e.g., Cougarguard (actually, that's a lot better name than CougarStadium which makes us sound like a bunch of couch potatoes and losers).Originally posted by The_Douger View PostChurchlady?When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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you know those adsense ads are based on your search/browsing history, right?Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostThere is even money to be made on Intenet sites if the branding is right. About.com recently sold for about $300 million (I expect to start seeing testosterone supplement and smart phone ads here soon).Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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About the new board name (cougarstadium.com)
Um, no. That's called crowd sourcing and its what square rimmed glasses wearing hipsters do six months before their innovative business goes under.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostThe other thing is, he should have consulted everyone. This is not ESPN or Daily Beast. Jeff is not Tina Brown. It's worthless without the content and following the members provide, more like a coop. See, e.g., Cougarguard (actually, that's a lot better name than CougarStadium which makes us sound like a bunch of couch potatoes and losers).
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I said that name would have been better. Not that it should be it. I think the progmo outlook here also affects posters' relations with their alma mater and favorite college teams.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostSo de-emphasize sports and change it to a website focused primarily on religious discussion? No thanks.
lol.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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For simple naming this is a good strategy. The executive committee could have retained final discretion to accept or reject the consensus. This is how the New Repubic named the Iran-contra scandal Iranamok (which was a lot better than Irangate, which is what everybody else called it).Originally posted by YOhio View PostUm, no. That's called crowd sourcing and its what square rimmed glasses wearing hipsters do six months before their innovative business goes under.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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mp, I am very sorry you feel this way. I have always enjoyed my friendship with you and your wife and I hope you stick around.Originally posted by mpfunk View PostI hesitate to say more on this, but here goes. The name change in an of itself is not causing me to rethink my involvement here. However, the explanations, from 2 people that I really like and respect, the Dude and surfah are causing me to seriously rethink how I should participate in this site. While neither of them directly said it, the undercurrent of both of their explanations is that they really do want Ute involvement on this site minimized. They both seem to like some of the Ute posters and have no problem if they stick around, but would be happier if those pesky Utes didn't litter their cougar board with posts about the Utes.
Over the years, this site has morphed for me into more of a sports message board. At the beginning that was not the case, but changes over time has made that what this place has become. In the early days of cougarguard (and let's be honest cougarguard is a part of the history of this board) there are many friends that I had on this site that helped me through a really tough time in my life. The Dude and Surfah among those friends. These people were a part of me overcoming serious depression that nearly killed me and helped me find God and hope in life. I'll always be grateful for that.
The community of this site means something to me on a personal level. I'm sad to see that dead and sad to see that the clear message has been sent to some of the participants here that, yes we like you but we would really like this place better if you were a less active part of it."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Mitchell P. Funk I don't care to minimize Ute participation. I have no desire or intent to moderate any differently than I have. I just don't care to participate in Ute discussions anymore because Utah has increasingly less to do with BYU. And I feel, my own perception, that the board has trended that way too. It just is what it is dude. For me, the rivalry is what made me care about Utah. There seems to be far less co-mingling on the board in the sports forums. There are Utah threads and BYU threads. And that is fine, but realize that BYU and Utah now are on different paths than they were before the summer of 2010. Trying to maintain that seems awkward at best and long term doesn't seem viable to me. How would you feel about BuffUteFans.com? Well that doesn't work, because there isn't any rivalry or shared community. All we have left then is history and a shared faith. Is that enough to sustain a message board? I don't think so. That's just my opinion and what caused me to agree with the change.Originally posted by mpfunk View PostThe more I think about it the more you are right, the name change was just a formality. Utes have been increasingly not welcome on this site. A Ute fan that acts like cougjunkie would likely be banned and certainly not beloved on the site. The change has already happened in the board, the name change is just a formality.
I've said this before in posts, the Dude has every right to make this change. He has invested more time and money into this site than anyone else on here. He owns it and with ownership he has the right to make these changes.
I hesitate to say more on this, but here goes. The name change in an of itself is not causing me to rethink my involvement here. However, the explanations, from 2 people that I really like and respect, the Dude and surfah are causing me to seriously rethink how I should participate in this site. While neither of them directly said it, the undercurrent of both of their explanations is that they really do want Ute involvement on this site minimized. They both seem to like some of the Ute posters and have no problem if they stick around, but would be happier if those pesky Utes didn't litter their cougar board with posts about the Utes.
Over the years, this site has morphed for me into more of a sports message board. At the beginning that was not the case, but changes over time has made that what this place has become. In the early days of cougarguard (and let's be honest cougarguard is a part of the history of this board) there are many friends that I had on this site that helped me through a really tough time in my life. The Dude and Surfah among those friends. These people were a part of me overcoming serious depression that nearly killed me and helped me find God and hope in life. I'll always be grateful for that.
The community of this site means something to me on a personal level. I'm sad to see that dead and sad to see that the clear message has been sent to some of the participants here that, yes we like you but we would really like this place better if you were a less active part of it.
Does this mean Ute participation here will be diminished over time? Maybe. But that will reflect your and other Utes' participation here. If you decide to take your posts elsewhere then that is a decision you have consciously made. It certainly won't be because of our moderation.
CUF was never static. It has evolved and changed over time. Everyone that participates here has a different definition of the community and places different values upon it. And people will come and go as they always have. Despite UtahDan's suggestion that this place might use an infusion of CB, this board will continue to quickly weed out those, as it always has, that can't pass the muster. I hope you and others who may feel slighted find enough value in the community to continue to participate.Last edited by Surfah; 02-07-2013, 10:39 AM."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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Like when everyone was consulted about voting for Finderson?Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostThe other thing is, he should have consulted everyone."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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More like going to your favorite Chinese-Mexican fusion restaurant, only to find out that it now has the name of a Mexican restaurant. But lo and behold, its menu still serves the exact same Chinese-Mexican fusion it served the day before. Same caliber and quantity, even.Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View PostI don't know that anyone thinks it is personal. To me it was more like going to your favorite Chinese restaurant only to find out that it is now has a Mexican menu. The walls are the same, but it is intrinsically different.
But now that the name changed, you're suddenly unsure if its your favorite Chinese-Mexican fusion restaurant anymore, even though the menu and the food haven't changed.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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