UtahDan: neither from/in Utah, nor named Dan. Discuss.

[Rosebud]

Just curious but does anyone think that anyone in the history of CUF has gotten a weaker effort from wuap than this?

Me. He forgot altogether.

[wuapinmon]

We're already facebook great friends, so this is superfluous, but still:

"Dan" is Spanish for "they give." Eve gave Adam the 'apple' and they were cast out of the Garden into the hell of Missouri (who says God isn't sarcastic?). After Adam gave it to Eve a few times, they had Cain and Abel. When Cain wasn't able to pay this tithes, he killed his brother, forcing Adam to give it to Eve some more, then Seth came along. Over time the descendants of Adam, via Seth, came to settle in Canaan, then Abraham>Isaac>Jacob>Joseph>Moses, after a slight detour of some renown in Egypt, brought the children of Israel back to The Kingdom of Israel (or what would become the Kingdom) that stretched from Dan to Beersheba. King over all these lands, David one day started checking out Uriah's wife Bathsheba, and after he gave it to her and she got pregnant, he gave orders to have Uriah killed by abandoning him in battle to the enemy. Bathsheba bore Solomon, who later gave it to the Queen of Sheba, who gave birth to the emperors of Ethiopia. Haile Selassie I, Emperor of Ethiopia, was the Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, and the reincarnated Jah to the Rasta sect. In the 1970s, the Rastas began to use reggae music as a way to spread their subversive and revolutionary racial ideology to the people via a tacit message of rejecting all that was given to them from the Babylon system (it is de vampire, suckin' the blood of de sufferer/building schools and universities/graduating thieves and murderahs/deceiving the people continually). Bob Marley, famous for his dreadlocks, died of cancer in 1981. Chemotherapy started shortly before his death caused his dreads to fall out. His wife, Rita, donated one of them to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the mid 1990s, home to several incarnations of Eric Clapton's various bands; Clapton helped bring reggae to the forefront of 1970's rock with his cover of the Wailers "I Shot the Sheriff." So, the question remains, if Bob Marley shot the sheriff, who shot the deputy?

This question expires today 9:25PM.

[UtahDan]

This question expires today 9:25PM.

The singer shot the deputy, protestations to the contrary notwithstanding. What we have here is a person who is trying to draw a distinction between a voluntary/volitional act and an involuntary act and just doesn't have the language to do it.

We know that he intended to shoot John Brown. We know this because he claims it was in self defense. A person is permitted to defend them self with deadly force when it reasonably appears that they are in imminent danger of suffering death or serious injury. But whenever we are talking about self defense we are talking about a volitional act (he meant to point point the gun and fire) coupled with one of the states of mind that would support a conviction for one of the types of murder or manslaughter (intent, knowledge, recklessness, etc.). He acknowledges he meant to shoot the gun and that he intended the foreseeable consequence of that action: the Sheriff being shot.

So this first shooting cannot be what he is talking about when he says "reflexes got the better of me." This can ONLY refer to the shooting of the deputy since the shooting of the Sheriff was in self-defense (intentional). What he is trying to say, is that the shooting of the deputy was in fact, involuntary. His mind did not control the action, rather, his body merely reacted unbidden. If this is true, the killing of the deputy is not a volitional act and therefor not criminal. This is a defense of the same nature of those who claim they have committed criminal acts while sleepwalking.

Here is how it unfolds: the first shooting (of the deputy) was truly involuntary. But the sheriff, seeing his deputy shot, now unholsters his weapon and, not appreciating that what he has just seen is an accident, levels it at the singer. The singer is now under an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm and shoots the sheriff to save his life.

What an unfortunate misunderstanding. The back drop, no doubt, is John Brown killing each planted seed before it could grow. Unwittingly he brings about his own demise.

[TripletDaddy]

Vicki Lawrence. If I gave that answer on one of your tests I would deserve an A for the whole semester, though without the help of Google or Wikipedia, does anyone besides DDD, if even him, know why it is the perfect answer?

See I'm once again lobbying to be the official inquisitor, instead of the rarely used reliever.

I love story songs.

[Art Vandelay]

I love story songs.

I feel bad for doubting your pop culture knowledge, especially in your strong suit-music.

Wild guess, you loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid and you usually figured out who did it by the 2nd chapter?

[UtahDan]

I feel bad for doubting your pop culture knowledge, especially in your strong suit-music.

Wild guess, you loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid and you usually figured out who did it by the 2nd chapter?

I don't know what suit-music is, but I have zero doubt that DDD is an expert!

[Lost Student]

The singer shot the deputy, protestations to the contrary notwithstanding. What we have here is a person who is trying to draw a distinction between a voluntary/volitional act and an involuntary act and just doesn't have the language to do it.

We know that he intended to shoot John Brown. We know this because he claims it was in self defense. A person is permitted to defend them self with deadly force when it reasonably appears that they are in imminent danger of suffering death or serious injury. But whenever we are talking about self defense we are talking about a volitional act (he meant to point point the gun and fire) coupled with one of the states of mind that would support a conviction for one of the types of murder or manslaughter (intent, knowledge, recklessness, etc.). He acknowledges he meant to shoot the gun and that he intended the foreseeable consequence of that action: the Sheriff being shot.

So this first shooting cannot be what he is talking about when he says "reflexes got the better of me." This can ONLY refer to the shooting of the deputy since the shooting of the Sheriff was in self-defense (intentional). What he is trying to say, is that the shooting of the deputy was in fact, involuntary. His mind did not control the action, rather, his body merely reacted unbidden. If this is true, the killing of the deputy is not a volitional act and therefor not criminal. This is a defense of the same nature of those who claim they have committed criminal acts while sleepwalking.

Here is how it unfolds: the first shooting (of the deputy) was truly involuntary. But the sheriff, seeing his deputy shot, now unholsters his weapon and, not appreciating that what he has just seen is an accident, levels it at the singer. The singer is now under an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm and shoots the sheriff to save his life.

What an unfortunate misunderstanding. The back drop, no doubt, is John Brown killing each planted seed before it could grow. Unwittingly he brings about his own demise.

I just didn't want this answer to go unnoticed. Great job. We shall be great friends an' all that.

[wuapinmon]

The singer shot the deputy, protestations to the contrary notwithstanding. What we have here is a person who is trying to draw a distinction between a voluntary/volitional act and an involuntary act and just doesn't have the language to do it.

We know that he intended to shoot John Brown. We know this because he claims it was in self defense. A person is permitted to defend them self with deadly force when it reasonably appears that they are in imminent danger of suffering death or serious injury. But whenever we are talking about self defense we are talking about a volitional act (he meant to point point the gun and fire) coupled with one of the states of mind that would support a conviction for one of the types of murder or manslaughter (intent, knowledge, recklessness, etc.). He acknowledges he meant to shoot the gun and that he intended the foreseeable consequence of that action: the Sheriff being shot.

So this first shooting cannot be what he is talking about when he says "reflexes got the better of me." This can ONLY refer to the shooting of the deputy since the shooting of the Sheriff was in self-defense (intentional). What he is trying to say, is that the shooting of the deputy was in fact, involuntary. His mind did not control the action, rather, his body merely reacted unbidden. If this is true, the killing of the deputy is not a volitional act and therefor not criminal. This is a defense of the same nature of those who claim they have committed criminal acts while sleepwalking.

Here is how it unfolds: the first shooting (of the deputy) was truly involuntary. But the sheriff, seeing his deputy shot, now unholsters his weapon and, not appreciating that what he has just seen is an accident, levels it at the singer. The singer is now under an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm and shoots the sheriff to save his life.

What an unfortunate misunderstanding. The back drop, no doubt, is John Brown killing each planted seed before it could grow. Unwittingly he brings about his own demise.

If I'm a jury member, I'm not buying your "unfolds," but this is a great response to a stellar question. We shall continue to be great friends!