My intro. Hope I don't mess it up.

[snowcat]

We don't judge you here.

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Welcome BS Coug

[creekster]

That's what I thought as well. Not sure why I put toe in parentheses instead of tow.

It is certainly toe.

Welcome.

[kimchicoug]

Think it is good for 12-13 year-olds. After that, it is a waste.

I never like to do activities with non-LDS scouting groups because we are pretty much a joke. We don't take it seriously. I think they resent us, but keep us because we give a lot of money. Also, our district pretty much uses one our buildings exclusively for 3-4 days/week because it only houses one ward.

Complete agree. I'm in a YM Presidency as well and it is completely demoralizing. Again, welcome!

[Backslidercoug]

Complete agree. I'm in a YM Presidency as well and it is completely demoralizing. Again, welcome!

I went into to one of the YM's court of review. The others interviewing him weren't LDS. I was so embarrassed. We do no scouting whatsoever after age 14, but his book had all of these positions that he had served in. It must have been the scoutmaster because the ym wasn't aware of it. They were asking him to talk about these positions and he couldn't BS it. I felt bad for him. I'm sure his parents made him get his eagle, and he ended up looking ridiculous.

I had to jump in a save him and ask questions that had to do with other things.

The other interviewers were just kinda looking at each other thinking "Yep, another LDS Eagle Scout that didn't really deserve it."

Oh well

[Xander]

I went into to one of the YM's court of review. The others interviewing him weren't LDS. I was so embarrassed. We do no scouting whatsoever after age 14, but his book had all of these positions that he had served in. It must have been the scoutmaster because the ym wasn't aware of it. They were asking him to talk about these positions and he couldn't BS it. I felt bad for him. I'm sure his parents made him get his eagle, and he ended up looking ridiculous.

I had to jump in a save him and ask questions that had to do with other things.

The other interviewers were just kinda looking at each other thinking "Yep, another LDS Eagle Scout that didn't really deserve it."

Oh well

I can't welcome you because I'm a freshman too, but on the Scouting part I can relate.
As assistant scout master we used to give the boys positions because they needed it for their next rank advancement but we were not organized enough for them to actually do any of the duties of that position. After talking to some community scout troops and how they operated I felt ashamed. I realized it was our fault but a lot of the blame can be put at the lds culture and how it gets people to fill positions. The more vested the scout masters and leaders are and the scouts with their parents, the better it is. It takes a lot of time to run a good program.

[Backslidercoug]

I can't welcome you because I'm a freshman too, but on the Scouting part I can relate.
As assistant scout master we used to give the boys positions because they needed it for their next rank advancement but we were not organized enough for them to actually do any of the duties of that position. After talking to some community scout troops and how they operated I felt ashamed. I realized it was our fault but a lot of the blame can be put at the lds culture and how it gets people to fill positions. The more vested the scout masters and leaders are and the scouts with their parents, the better it is. It takes a lot of time to run a good program.

Good thoughts. I think that is exactly what happened. The scoutmaster is a friend of mine and explained that. From then on we did a little prep work before the board of reviews.

I wouldn't mind being a scoutmaster when my boys are in there, but it is different when my kids are too young and the calling takes a lot of time away from them.

[kimchicoug]

I went into to one of the YM's court of review. The others interviewing him weren't LDS. I was so embarrassed. We do no scouting whatsoever after age 14, but his book had all of these positions that he had served in. It must have been the scoutmaster because the ym wasn't aware of it. They were asking him to talk about these positions and he couldn't BS it. I felt bad for him. I'm sure his parents made him get his eagle, and he ended up looking ridiculous.

I had to jump in a save him and ask questions that had to do with other things.

The other interviewers were just kinda looking at each other thinking "Yep, another LDS Eagle Scout that didn't really deserve it."

Oh well

I can't welcome you because I'm a freshman too, but on the Scouting part I can relate.
As assistant scout master we used to give the boys positions because they needed it for their next rank advancement but we were not organized enough for them to actually do any of the duties of that position. After talking to some community scout troops and how they operated I felt ashamed. I realized it was our fault but a lot of the blame can be put at the lds culture and how it gets people to fill positions. The more vested the scout masters and leaders are and the scouts with their parents, the better it is. It takes a lot of time to run a good program.

I am a Varsity Coach and I give as much as I can, but quite honestly I don't have the time or desire to learn half of the stuff myself. I've brought up my concerns over LDS Scouting and, to be honest, myself as a Scout leader, but I get the "we aren't here to do Scouting. We are here to build Young Men. Scouting is just a tool." Well then stop trying to pressure me into all these stupid awards, camps, and activities that we aren't prepared to do as a Team. Stop speaking out of both sides of your mouth and either make us a traditional Scout troop led by real Scouters or let us be an LDS youth group. The current system is crap and the only positives are brought about by some extraordinary young men/parents/families/communities/leaders.

[Moliere]

BSCoug is in charge of the annual CUF Friends of Scouting drive. I'll send him the paperwork.

Oh, and soit le bienvenu!

[clackamascoug]

Backslider, is a name that could have been used here, a 100 times or more. CUF is where marginal mormons come to begin their backsliding. A few of us HP's here, are on "internet missions" as part of a black ops project to get the home teaching numbers up. We interact with the backslinding and inactive business professionals (read Elders) to keep tabs on them, and encourage them to continue paying tithes and offerings. In return we get free ISP from the church, and unlimited free genealogy support for our efforts. I guess it's a win win, but it's a 10 year commitment, and it gets kinda old reading the "What I Learned in Church" thread. The Docs are nice with raisin cakes, and free ibuprofen advice, but they are a little lax on the hygiene. The lawyers use big words, and are stingy with advice if you want to represent yourself, but for the most part they only nip at each other. Be wary of Robin Finderson, as he is part of a secret combination that is trying to thwart the advancement of CUF, and is ghost writing under a pseudonym that heretofore goes undetected. If you hear a whistle - hide.

Welcome and Good Luck.

p.s. avatars that are actually people, seem to be more popular than the people with pictures of just stuff. just saying.

[CardiacCoug]

Awesome book, The Backslider, only $5.95 at Amazon.

Welcome!

[byu71]

Welcome. I am glad to have you here.

[UtahDan]

http://signaturebooks.com/2010/04/re...he-backslider/


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[pellegrino]

Awesome book, The Backslider, only $5.95 at Amazon.

Welcome!

you should read "Canyons of Grace" which is a collection of short stories.

[happyone]

Let me add my welcome

Welcome