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  • LA Ute
    Receiver of Memory
    • Nov 2008
    • 19512

    #16
    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Eduardosietesietesiete, you'll notice that he listed me first because I'm dearest to his heart. However, I'm more of a cockalorum than a blowhard; I should add that LA Ute is a first-class smellfungus.
    No, blowhard will do to describe you. And you are indeed first among equals. I guess that means we are both first-class in our category.
    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
    ― W.H. Auden


    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27877

      #17
      Originally posted by edward777 View Post
      Hello. I would like to make an introduction of sorts

      I am LDS, have lived in Utah (Vernal) for a year and am originally from the pacific Northwest. I am married, have 8 kids, and am a high priest. However, I may at times come across a bit unconventional (liberal on some issues, libertarian on some issues, and conservative on others). My main philosophical bent? Question authority anytime, anywhere.
      I've got family in vernal. It's a nice place but I wouldn't want to live there.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • HuskyFreeNorthwest
        Time to camp
        • Nov 2008
        • 26082

        #18
        You would have been a lot better addition if you were still in the PNW.
        Get confident, stupid
        -landpoke

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        • CardiacCoug
          вот так штука
          • Nov 2008
          • 11013

          #19
          Originally posted by edward777 View Post
          Maybe its a generational thing with plastics leaching into food, or estrogen in the water from female contraceptives. I have read a lot about the decline in male fertility and lower testosterone levels. Things were more natural in Elder Packer's day.
          LOL!

          No way would any apostle's wife use birth control to purposefully limit the number of kids she's having, so it must be "toxins" in the environment. Nice.

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          • SoonerCoug
            Joycelyn Elders Supporter
            • Nov 2008
            • 4680

            #20
            I would go so far as to argue that having more than 3 children nowadays could interfere with one's ability to become a big-time church leader.

            In fact, within 20-30 years, I think there will no longer will be apostles with more than 3 children and there will be some apostles with only 1 child.
            That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

            http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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            • edward777
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 366

              #21
              Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
              LOL!

              No way would any apostle's wife use birth control to purposefully limit the number of kids she's having, so it must be "toxins" in the environment. Nice.
              Well, there is evidence that testosterone levels in the general US and British male population is declining, so along with that there would be a decline in fertility. Then add to this males in more stressful environments and one could speculate that this could send males with lower testosterone levels anyway into virtual sterility.

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              • edward777
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 366

                #22
                Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                I would go so far as to argue that having more than 3 children nowadays could interfere with one's ability to become a big-time church leader.

                In fact, within 20-30 years, I think there will no longer will be apostles with more than 3 children and there will be some apostles with only 1 child.
                And that one child will be gay?

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                • TripletDaddy
                  sweet triple
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 58186

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                  I would go so far as to argue that having more than 3 children nowadays could interfere with one's ability to become a big-time church leader.

                  this is why we stopped when we did.
                  Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

                  sigpic

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                  • edward777
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 366

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    this is why we stopped when we did.
                    Why would one want to be a high up type in the Church?

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                    • edward777
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 366

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                      You should know that you have basically zero chance at becoming an apostle since you had so many kids. In fact, pretty much all the new apostles have fewer than four children.

                      See the trend below:

                      Boyd K. Packer 10 children
                      L. Tom Perry 4 children
                      Russell M. Nelson 10 children
                      Dallin H. Oaks 6 children
                      M. Russell Ballard 7 children
                      Joseph B. Wirthlin 8 children
                      Richard G. Scott 7 children
                      Robert D. Hales 2 children
                      Jeffrey R. Holland 3 children
                      Dieter F. Uchtdorf 2 children
                      David A Bednar 3 children
                      Quentin L Cook 3 children
                      So the guy in this video has almost twice as many kids as the combined total for the last five apostles?

                      [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OEaRn3uHsc"]‪Polygamy Family Interview 4‬‏ - YouTube[/nomedia]

                      What would Charles Darwin have to say about that?

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                      • Moliere
                        One man.....one pie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 27877

                        #26
                        Originally posted by edward777 View Post
                        Why would one want to be a high up type in the Church?
                        Because apostles make over $500k a year...
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • edward777
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 366

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                          Because apostles make over $500k a year...
                          Yeah, but the statistical chance of ever being an apostle is about as great as being voted most valuable player in the NFL.

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                          • Sullyute
                            a day late/a dollar short
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3308

                            #28
                            Originally posted by edward777 View Post
                            And that one child will be gay?
                            You already know how to play this game. So the next question is will this child be single or will they be bringing their significant other to te Christmas devotional?

                            Welcome aboard.
                            "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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                            • happyone
                              Board Bookworm
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5398

                              #29
                              welcome, welcome

                              8 kids - you must be geting close to joining the CUF AARP club

                              I may be small, but I'm slow.

                              A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."

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