I'm glad you resigned Byron. Any reason you didn't renounce your us citizenship all these years?
It's OK to resign.
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Creek,Originally posted by creekster View PostAnd you just keep talking about it over and over again.
I don't really know you or anything about you. I can't recall you ever writing anything that was particularly memorable to me, but apparently the things I write have struck a chord with you.
In any case, I'm ok. I hope you're ok too. No ill will from me to you.
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I don't understand the comparison.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI'm glad you resigned Byron. Any reason you didn't renounce your us citizenship all these years?
I like roads and schools.
Maybe I like having a system where people have freedom of speech and where people can protest without losing their citizenship.
Maybe I dislike flawed totalitarian systems more than flawed democratic systems.
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So you are supportive of a system that for the most part is good although it also simultaneously denied rights to gays???Originally posted by ByronMarchant View PostI don't understand the comparison.
I like roads and schools.
Maybe I like having a system where people have freedom of speech and where people can protest without losing their citizenship.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I don't support denial of rights to gays under any circumstances.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostSo you are supportive of a system that for the most part is good although it also simultaneously denied rights to gays???
I'm off to the game now.
No further comment on the matter. I think I've been clear on my opinions here.
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seems like by not renouncing your us citizenship for the majority of your life you have supported the denial of rights to gays. You have supported it financially and politically. Not too impressive Byron.Originally posted by ByronMarchant View PostI don't support denial of rights to gays under any circumstances.
I'm off to the game now.
No further comment on the matter. I think I've been clear on my opinions here.
Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Originally posted by ByronMarchant View PostNo further comment on the matter. I think I've been clear on my opinions here.
Have fun at the game! Give 'em hell, Cougars!Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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It is true you know nothing about me. I'm glad you're ok. I'm happy you're happy with your choice. And I am fine that nothing I have written is memorable to you. I can live with all that.Originally posted by ByronMarchant View PostCreek,
I don't really know you or anything about you. I can't recall you ever writing anything that was particularly memorable to me, but apparently the things I write have struck a chord with you.
In any case, I'm ok. I hope you're ok too. No ill will from me to you.
I just dont know why you have to keep bleating about the same things over and over. But, if it makes you happy, have fun. It looks like many people here are fans and are happy to engage your pedantic chatter. I'll leave you all to it, for now anyway. But no promises, as I reserve the right to interject non-memorable comments at any time. Enjoy!PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI'm glad you resigned Byron. Any reason you didn't renounce your us citizenship all these years?Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostSo you are supportive of a system that for the most part is good although it also simultaneously denied rights to gays???It seems iPU hacked 3D's account.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Postseems like by not renouncing your us citizenship for the majority of your life you have supported the denial of rights to gays. You have supported it financially and politically. Not too impressive Byron.
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Originally posted by scottie View PostIt seems iPU hacked 3D's account.
What the hell are you talking about?"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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I have similarly noticed this myth among the ex-mo community that resigning is somehow a difficult process. I also love when people start throwing out threats of legal action, as if there really is a cause of action that someone could bring for the LDS church not removing records.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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He probably voted for Obama, who was a gay hater at the time of both presidential elections he won.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostSo you are supportive of a system that for the most part is good although it also simultaneously denied rights to gays???"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Either Jesus Christ was a liar, lunatic or Lord. Either Joseph Smith was a liar, lunatic or a prophet of God. If they were who they said they were (and I am absolutely convinced they were), then leaving the Church (the only place that has God-given authority to perform saving and eternal ordinances and where the true Gospel is taught more so than anywhere else) is a horribly foolish and myopic thing to do. People can intellectualize themselves into knots over various topics, but this fundamental decision is pretty black and white. If people think the Church is man-made, then yeah no reason to stick around (I wouldn't). The Church and its leaders are not perfect, but if you think it is true, but leave because of what's trending in society then that is just sad.Originally posted by ByronMarchant View PostI just want you to all know that it's easy to resign your membership in the LDS Church.
All you have to do is email your bishop. If your bishop is responsible, you'll recieve your letter confirming your resignation within a few days.
Good people like SeattleUte should just go ahead and take care of this so their name is no longer in any way associated with the Church's discriminatory policies. It's also a much deserved vote of no confidence for the current leadership.
Maybe this applies to you, maybe it doesn't, but this growing protest culture where people keep trying to signal how virtuous they are and to boost their self-esteem by latching on to faddish causes is vacuous. Many have let go of the iron rod, become blinded by the mists of darkness and become ashamed when the people in the big building (society, pop culture) point fingers and mock.
This scripture I read the other night seems relevant here, too. The context is covetousness, but it teaches an important, general principle:
Luke 16:15
15 And [Jesus] said unto them, Ye [the Pharisees] are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
And just so we are clear, I do wish you all the best.Last edited by Crockett; 11-19-2015, 10:14 AM.
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I agree (with the idea it's short-sighted to resign if you believe), but I don't think that's what is happening. I think the people resigning are those people who don't believe it in that same literal way you do.Originally posted by Crockett View PostEither Jesus Christ was a liar, lunatic or Lord. Either Joseph Smith was a liar, lunatic or a prophet of God. If they were who they said they were (and I am absolutely convinced they were), then leaving the Church (the only place that has God-given authority to perform saving and eternal ordinances and where the true Gospel is taught more so than anywhere else) is a horribly foolish and myopic thing to do. People can intellectualize themselves into knots over various topics, but this fundamental decision is pretty black and white. If people think the Church is man-made, then yeah no reason to stick around (I wouldn't). The Church and its leaders are not perfect, but if you think it is true, but leave because of what's trending in society then that is just sad.
Maybe this applies to you, maybe it doesn't, but this growing protest culture where people keep trying to signal how virtuous they are and to boost their self-esteem by latching on to faddish causes is vacuous. Many have let go of the iron rod, become blinded by the mists of darkness and become ashamed when the people in the big building (society, pop culture) point fingers and mock.
This scripture I read the other night seems relevant here, too. The context is covetousness, but it teaches an important, general principle:
Luke 16:15
15 And [Jesus] said unto them, Ye [the Pharisees] are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
And just so we are clear, I do wish you all the best.
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