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[Brian]

I have come to terms with the fact that Elder Eyring, my 1st cousin once removed, is involved in something shady at best (denial of basic equal rights to women and denial of free thought and speech to Mormons).

I have also come to terms with the fact that my great uncle, President Kimball, doesn't deserve credit for giving black men the priesthood in NINETEEN FREAKING SEVENTY EIGHT.

All-American and many others still have some things to come to terms with.

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[Uncle Ted]

I feel like the Savior staged "demonstrations" at times.

Jesus taught us by prefect example on how to do it properly...


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[ERCougar]

No centrally coordinated effort?

[cowboy]

Yeah losing a job is tough -- probably not as tough as what Kate is going through.

Please tell me you're kidding.

[SandYFan]

No centrally coordinated effort?

Wow is that a combative read. Interesting stuff.

EDIT: To clarify, interesting the lack of "thus saith the Lord" pronouncements on the topic so far.

[SeattleUte]

No centrally coordinated effort?

Shoot. I was hoping they'd only excommunicate Kate so I could accuse them of sexism even in that. But it looks like ARW has now sealed his doom.

[Topper]

So little time so many people to strike off the roles.

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[Uncle Ted]

Why is everyone jumping down the throat of the LDS church leadership for excommunicating two or three people, but no one is criticizing the Pope for excommunicating hundreds of people who are similarly giving his church some problems? Bit of a double standard, if you ask me.

I thought it was estimated that the LDS church excommunicates somewhere between 10,000 to 20,000 mobsters members each year.

[Topper]

I had no idea but I have seen the clean the roles efforts.

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[Eleven34]

Okay. Fair enough. Will any of the priesthood leaders involved lose their jobs over this? Smart money says yes.

In this case I am not sure I buy it but the Church PR team has been pretty vocal claiming that HQ has nothing to do instigating disciplinary councils.

Here is what I would do if I were her Stake Pres/Bishop and thought there were any chance I could lose my job over excommunicating a woman who was asking for gender equality in the Church...I would simply exonerate her. This would force the dudes in SLC to take care of their own dirty laundry. If they want her out they would have to do it themselves.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

In this case I am not sure I buy it but the Church PR team has been pretty vocal claiming that HQ has nothing to do instigating disciplinary councils.

Here is what I would do if I were her Stake Pres/Bishop and thought there were any chance I could lose my job over excommunicating a woman who was asking for gender equality in the Church...I would simply exonerate her. This would force the dudes in SLC to take care of their own dirty laundry. If they want her out they would have to do it themselves.

Then you could be exed, but you'd still have your job!

[Eleven34]

Then you could be exed, but you'd still have your job!

You think they would ex the Stake Pres if he decides not to discipline Kate? I could not see that happening. I can see them releasing him soon after it has all blown over but nothing more than that.

Or maybe they promised him a spot in the 70 if he takes the hit. He does the dirty work, loses his job and gets fast tracked to a spot in the good ol' boys club.

[Pheidippides]

Shoot. I was hoping they'd only excommunicate Kate so I could accuse them of sexism even in that. But it looks like ARW has now sealed his doom.

ARW is already on record as saying he doesn't care since it's just meaningless paperwork anyway.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

You think they would ex the Stake Pres if he decides not to discipline Kate? I could not see that happening. I can see them releasing him soon after it has all blown over but nothing more than that.

Or maybe they promised him a spot in the 70 if he takes the hit. He does the dirty work, loses his job and gets fast tracked to a spot in the good ol' boys club.

I thought only the top 15 made the big bucks.

Also, your user name is intriguing.

[SeattleUte]

ARW is already on record as saying he doesn't care since it's just meaningless paperwork anyway.

He's right.