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  • New NCAA rule about poaching missionaries

    thanks to Mr. Incredible on cougarboard who first posted this.

    13.1.1.3.2 Student-Athlete Withdrawn from Four-Year College.
    13.1.1.3.2.1 Exception -- Official Church Mission. Effective Date: Aug 01, 2009

    An institution shall not contact a student-athlete who has begun service on an official church mission without obtaining permission from the institution from which the student-athlete withdrew prior to beginning his or her mission if the student-athlete signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) and attended the institution (with which he or she signed the NLI) as a full-time student. If such a student-athlete has completed his or her official church mission and does not enroll full time in a collegiate institution within one calendar year of completion of the mission, an institution may contact the student-athlete without obtaining permission from the first institution. (Adopted: 1/14/09 effective 8/1/09)
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

  • #2
    Hmm, Couple thoughts.

    1. What if said missionary makes the contact? Does he have to be granted permission. If so, why the does his letter of intent hold for 3 years when all others are for 1.
    2. Like a school is going to give permission to contact a missionary. That is funny.
    3. This does not hurt or help. BYU will now not lose some missionaries and not gain others.
    4. Mr. Incredible. Don't let MRD poach your stuff. You should post here more often.
    Last edited by Coach McGuirk; 06-11-2009, 06:59 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
      thanks to Mr. Incredible on cougarboard who first posted this.
      I think this is a very reasonable rule. A lot of the cougar faithful howl and moan about other schools discouraging kids from going on missions. These same folks though seem to have no problem, as a matter of fact they hope, the kid will break his committment while on his mission.

      There are consequences to one giving his word, or at least there should be.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
        1. What if said missionary makes the contact? Does he have to be granted permission. If so, why the does his letter of intent hold for 3 years when all others are for 1.
        I would guess that a player could request a release from his LOI and have the opportunity to talk to other schools. Like most said, I'm not sure that this will either hurt or help.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
          I think this is a very reasonable rule. A lot of the cougar faithful howl and moan about other schools discouraging kids from going on missions. These same folks though seem to have no problem, as a matter of fact they hope, the kid will break his committment while on his mission.

          There are consequences to one giving his word, or at least there should be.
          I have always found this very hilarious. In fact the year after BO left and was the worst person ever, BYU got a lineman to leave Vandy when he got home from his mission. The standard CB defense was that he left Vandy to be closer to his family so that was ok.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
            I have always found this very hilarious. In fact the year after BO left and was the worst person ever, BYU got a lineman to leave Vandy when he got home from his mission. The standard CB defense was that he left Vandy to be closer to his family so that was ok.
            Quite frankly I really believe how these folks justify it in their minds is that the one leaving is leaving the arms of God and the one coming is coming into the arms of God.

            It is the problem I have with the religion and football. I have no problem with kids being good, honorable and of high character. The problem I have is the inuendo by some, that that situation is only available at BYU. It also leads to the we can do things that others shouldn't because we answer to a higher law. Quite a stretch, but almost the killing of Laban was OK scenario.

            I am and always have been proud of the standards BYU tries to maintain. At the same time I recoil at how some seem to want to flaunt those standards.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
              Quite frankly I really believe how these folks justify it in their minds is that the one leaving is leaving the arms of God and the one coming is coming into the arms of God.

              It is the problem I have with the religion and football. I have no problem with kids being good, honorable and of high character. The problem I have is the inuendo by some, that that situation is only available at BYU. It also leads to the we can do things that others shouldn't because we answer to a higher law. Quite a stretch, but almost the killing of Laban was OK scenario.

              I am and always have been proud of the standards BYU tries to maintain. At the same time I recoil at how some seem to want to flaunt those standards.
              I have never understood how BYU fans can be inconsistent while other fans are always so consistent. It seems like BYU fans are just fannatical or something.

              With respect to the rule, I don't think it is fair how everything is stacked against the kid. Further, this rule is not in BYU's favor. Not that it will deal a crushing blow to BYU sports but the fact of the matter is that on averages more kids not disposed to BYU will be more more disposed towards the Y at the end of an LDS mission than kids who liked BYU before a mission and afterwards suddenly have less interest in the Y. As I understand the rule a University can pull a kids scholarship at the end of the year with no warning but to transfer the kid must get permission - even while being gone for two years as a missionary. I would find these rules more fair if a University is locked into giving any kid who signs an LOI a scholarship for two years and having to tell him a year in advance if his scholarship is not going to be renewed.

              I also think fake boobs are really, really cool!
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              -General George S. Patton

              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
              -DOCTOR Wuap

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              • #8
                I don't like this rule.

                If it were in place when Shawn Bradley was on his mission, would ESPN have been able to hang out with him for a few days, tracting, teaching, and even praying on camera?
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