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I understand your point that the SEC rarely leaves the South for OOC. But they still play quality OOC games. It doesn't bother me that the SEC doesn't have to leave the South to do so. Florida plays FSU every year. Georgia plays Georgia Tech. South Carolina plays Clemson. Those are usually quality OOC games. The same could be said of Oklahoma and Texas when they were in different conferences. They played each other every year in Dallas. I don't really care that the SEC don't leave the South as long as they play quality OOC games. However, I wish the SEC would go back to playing more OOC games outside the South. Years ago, I watched Alabama (1977), Auburn (1981), LSU (1975), and S. Carolina (1987) all play in Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, Nebraska so I know the SEC is capable of traveling. Tennessee visits in 2016 so there may be hope.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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I did something similar back in late March from 1996-2011. There are differences probably due to my imposing a rule of 3 conference champs and one at-large (or 4th conference champ). For instance, last year Stanford doesn't make it because Alabama gets the at-large so PAC-12 Champ Oregon gets the playoff invite. Overall, more accurate than my stab at it but 2004 needs a correction (in bold).Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=57122“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafelComment
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The latest proposal....
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...ny-says-050212In the plan Delany discussed, a conference champion would automatically qualify for the playoff if ranked in the top six. If less than four conference champions were among the top six, the remaining spots would be filled by the highest ranked teams.
I am not offended by this proposal although I would have lowered that ranking down to 8. If they keep it 6, then serious consideration should be given to the elimination of pre-season rankings. the SEC enjoys a huge advantage in the pre-season rankings. If you don't start out ranked up there, it is tough to climb that high.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Under that proposal here are all the matchups from 1998 on:Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
1998
Tenn vs Ohio St
Fla St v Kstate
1999
Fla St v Bama
Va Tech v Nebraska
2000
Ok v Wash
Fla St v Miami
2001
Miami v Florida (5th)
Nebrask v Oregon
2002
Miami v USC
Ohio St v Georgia
2003
Oklahoma v Mich
LSU v USC
2004
USC v Utah (6th)
Ok v Auburn
2005
USC v ND
Texas v Pennst
2006
Ohio St v USC (5th)
Florida v Louisville (6th)
2007
Ohio St v Va Tech
LSU v Oklahoma
2008
Ok v USC (5th)
Florida v Texas (Utah was 6th and first team to truly get the shaft)
2009
Bama v Cincy
Texas v TCU
2010
Auburn v Wisconsin (5th)
Oregon v TCU
2011
LSU v Oregon (5th)
Ok St v Bama (first time not enough conf champ winners to qualify)Last edited by Mormon Red Death; 05-03-2012, 07:31 AM."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI'm on board with this. I think it would improve the regular season and the post season.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
I think the 2008 rankings might have turned out differently with this system as there would have been some sympathy for an undefeated Utah team. Then again it is tough to leave out a one loss USC team, so probably not.
Maybe add a qualifier being that being undefeated in the top 6 has priority over conference champions. Unfortunately, that would encourage watered-down schedules. So... yes I like this idea the way it is.Comment
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Besides ND, Byu and Army how could a team not win their conference and be undefeated?Originally posted by beefytee View Post
Edit.. I get what you are saying. Meaning if an undefeated team is ranked lower they get preference."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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Here is what I hope happens:
1. Semifinals are played on home campus of the higher seed (Which means the glorious SEC might have to play a road game in cold weather out of the south.). Final is played rotating between the Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Cotton and Orange Bowls.
2. 1v4 2v3 conf champs unless there isn't a conf champ 6 or higher. B1G commissioner's plan is basically what I like
3. To Determine the top 4 use the bcs rankings with two caveats.
A. It has to include strength of schedule with extra bonus for Out of conference away games.
B. No preseason rankings"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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Where is the Ute outrage at this proposal, given that both 2004 and 2008 teams would have been left out of this? Has the BCS already corrupted you?
(Admittedly, the 2008 team was beyond lucky, and would have been smoked by any of those 4 teams, but that 2004 team was pretty good.)At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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Under the Delaney proposal the 2004 team would have been in the playoff (Texas and Cal were the other two teams and USC and OK won their respective conference those years).Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
As for the 2008 I mentioned above they got the shaft but I contend they could have hung with any of the 4 that would have played."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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See note in bold. A few corrections and commentary.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafelComment
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thanks I knew there were changes but I did the list quick this morning. good catch on 2008.Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
In 1998 the only reason wisconsin went to the rosebowl was because the tiebreaker was "who has been the longest since going to the rosebowl" Ohio St gets in.
1998
Tenn v UCLA
Fla St v Ohio StLast edited by Mormon Red Death; 05-03-2012, 10:47 AM."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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there were probably and will be probably some rematches. I am ok with that.
2006 has #3 michigan left out in favor of Louisville. I'm ok with that. Lends credence to the necessity of winning your conference. Those are the rules."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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While Utah was conf champ in 2008, I have a hunch that the scenario being discussed right now does not contemplate the inclusion of all conference champs, only those from the 6 BCS conferences (or whatever they will call themselves in the future)Originally posted by Paperback Writer View PostFitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I dont think so given that they recently passed a measure to throw away AQ and non AQ designations. Not to mention the current bcs rules say that it doesnt matter what conference you are from if you finish 1 or 2 you are playing in the Nat Championship.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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No way the Big East gets an auto. I also wonder if the powers that be will mandate a conference championship game in order to get an automatic bid. That would put pressure on the Big 12 to add BYU and somebody else and get back to playing a CCG. The auto bids will be reserved for PAC-12, Big Ten, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 (perhaps only if they play a CCG).Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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