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  • #91
    Originally posted by Applejack View Post

    Dammit!! The rising injury cost us more than I thought!!
    Is the lack of capitalization some kind of cryptic message?
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • #92
      Do we have a Wyoming game thread yet?
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
      - Goatnapper'96

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Pelado View Post
        Do we have a Wyoming game thread yet?
        Yeah, whose job is that?
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • #94
          BYU receiving 2 votes in the AP top 25 and 3 votes in the Coach's poll.

          At #56 in ESPN's Football Power Index. According to the FPI:
          • Projected regular season record of 6.6-5.4
          • 0.0% chance to win out
          • 74.8% chance to win 6+ games
          • 1.0% chance to win Big 12
          • 2.1% chance to make playoffs
          • 0.1% chance to make national championship game
          • 0.0% chance to win national championship

          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
          - Goatnapper'96

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Pelado View Post
            BYU receiving 2 votes in the AP top 25 and 3 votes in the Coach's poll.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • #96
              KState is favored by 7 as the week begins. BYU has completely smashed each of the first three spreads so far. Not sure they can do that again but the odds makers seem to be adjusting. This line would probably favor KState by at least 20 points if this were 2 or 3 weeks ago. The offense still has work to do but the defense might keep us in it long enough. We'll see.

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              • #97
                When I watched the SIU game I thought Retzlaff was good enough for BYU to win 7 games as a decent game manager. I didn't watch either of the last two games so I don't know if my opinion would change. I think KSU has a pretty dynamic qb and a better offense than BYU has faced this year. I am in the camp with this BYU team who believes the data so far this year indicates BYU isn't a bad team but we really don't know how good BYU is.

                My criticism of BYU's coaching staff is IMO the inconsistency. IMO, they struggle with the grind of getting their team ready to play week in and week out against good teams. The grind for this team starts this next game. I know the RBs are dinged up and that will be a problem but that is part of the game- we don't know the injury situation as BYU keeps it under wraps but other than LJ and Ropati I think BYU is pretty healthy going into this game-especially on defense. It seems to me BYU has to use Retzloff as a runner and hopefully he can complete enough passes with that to move the ball enough to win. It has been repeated oft but I think for BYU to win they must win the turnover battle. I am excited to see what this defense can do against a good P4 offense.

                Many questions- can Retzlaff play well against good competition, how good is BYU's D, can the coaching staff develop a good gameplan the players can execute to keep the game competitive despite the injuries at RB and Retzlaff's limitations as a QB etc. It has been a fun 3 games, I tire of much of BYU's fanbase whining but I have accepted it, but the reality is this game will tell us more about what type of team BYU is this year than the 3 games up to now.
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                  When I watched the SIU game I thought Retzlaff was good enough for BYU to win 7 games as a decent game manager. I didn't watch either of the last two games so I don't know if my opinion would change. I think KSU has a pretty dynamic qb and a better offense than BYU has faced this year. I am in the camp with this BYU team who believes the data so far this year indicates BYU isn't a bad team but we really don't know how good BYU is.

                  My criticism of BYU's coaching staff is IMO the inconsistency. IMO, they struggle with the grind of getting their team ready to play week in and week out against good teams. The grind for this team starts this next game. I know the RBs are dinged up and that will be a problem but that is part of the game- we don't know the injury situation as BYU keeps it under wraps but other than LJ and Ropati I think BYU is pretty healthy going into this game-especially on defense. It seems to me BYU has to use Retzloff as a runner and hopefully he can complete enough passes with that to move the ball enough to win. It has been repeated oft but I think for BYU to win they must win the turnover battle. I am excited to see what this defense can do against a good P4 offense.

                  Many questions- can Retzlaff play well against good competition, how good is BYU's D, can the coaching staff develop a good gameplan the players can execute to keep the game competitive despite the injuries at RB and Retzlaff's limitations as a QB etc. It has been a fun 3 games, I tire of much of BYU's fanbase whining but I have accepted it, but the reality is this game will tell us more about what type of team BYU is this year than the 3 games up to now.
                  Retzlaff vexes me. Last season he took OU and OkieState to the edge of winning (despite that horrible pick 6). He is awesome on some plays (that TD pass to Lassiter on Saturday and that long TD pass to JoJo against SIU) but then on other plays. I'm an eternal optimist, so I'm happy to ride with him hopefully expecting that he'll work it out for the better. Yes, getting him into the run game ala WYO is a good plan.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                    Retzlaff vexes me. Last season he took OU and OkieState to the edge of winning (despite that horrible pick 6). He is awesome on some plays (that TD pass to Lassiter on Saturday and that long TD pass to JoJo against SIU) but then on other plays. I'm an eternal optimist, so I'm happy to ride with him hopefully expecting that he'll work it out for the better. Yes, getting him into the run game ala WYO is a good plan.
                    Agreed. But then that might cut his time short.

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                    • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                      Agreed. But then that might cut his time short.
                      Some might say that is the idea.
                      τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                      • BYU fans are delusional/irrational about Jake Retzlaff. He isn't nearly as bad they say he is.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                          When I watched the SIU game I thought Retzlaff was good enough for BYU to win 7 games as a decent game manager. I didn't watch either of the last two games so I don't know if my opinion would change. I think KSU has a pretty dynamic qb and a better offense than BYU has faced this year. I am in the camp with this BYU team who believes the data so far this year indicates BYU isn't a bad team but we really don't know how good BYU is.

                          My criticism of BYU's coaching staff is IMO the inconsistency. IMO, they struggle with the grind of getting their team ready to play week in and week out against good teams. The grind for this team starts this next game. I know the RBs are dinged up and that will be a problem but that is part of the game- we don't know the injury situation as BYU keeps it under wraps but other than LJ and Ropati I think BYU is pretty healthy going into this game-especially on defense. It seems to me BYU has to use Retzloff as a runner and hopefully he can complete enough passes with that to move the ball enough to win. It has been repeated oft but I think for BYU to win they must win the turnover battle. I am excited to see what this defense can do against a good P4 offense.

                          Many questions- can Retzlaff play well against good competition, how good is BYU's D, can the coaching staff develop a good gameplan the players can execute to keep the game competitive despite the injuries at RB and Retzlaff's limitations as a QB etc. It has been a fun 3 games, I tire of much of BYU's fanbase whining but I have accepted it, but the reality is this game will tell us more about what type of team BYU is this year than the 3 games up to now.
                          When he's good he's plenty good to get us 6 or 7 wins. His final numbers in that Wyoming game were good. But he was a whisker away from an entirely different game. It feels like that's how every week will be with him. I just have to get used to it.

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            BYU fans are delusional/irrational about Jake Retzlaff. He isn't nearly as bad they say he is.
                            He was bad in the SMU game. 111 pass efficiency can't really be brushed off that easily. . Could be that SMU's defense was really good but I don't think that accounts for all of it. He was very good against SIU and had a pretty good game against Wyoming. Overall it's 154 for the season but it's harder to believe it stays there against a Big 12 schedule.

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                            • So far Retzlaugh has been a turnover machine. The one thing a winning QB can't do is turn the ball over. Turnovers were definitely an Achilles heel during the Jake Heaps/Riley Nelson years and became Tanner Mangum's downfall as well. JR has demonstrated through his 7 games that is prone to coughing the ball up. 10 turnovers in 7 games is not a sustainable rate for a QB that wins 7- 8 games against a P4 schedule.
                              Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                              There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                BYU fans are delusional/irrational about Jake Retzlaff. He isn't nearly as bad they say he is.
                                That's the real problem with Retzlaff. Sometimes, he's absolutely as bad as BYU fans say he is. And sometimes, he is absolutely brilliant, making as many big-time plays as anybody in the country. The inconsistency is maddening.
                                τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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