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  • Speculations about the Alamo Bowl wanting BYU vs Colorado. I think it would be a great matchup, and the ratings would be excellent.
    We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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    • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post

      Through the UCF game, he was def above average. The last four games? Regression. And that's not good.

      First 8 games he was 18 TDs, 7 Int, and 143 QB rating and 4.8 YPC for 3 TDs. Last 4 games he was 54% passing for 2 TDs, 3 Int, 120 QB Rating, and 2.8 YPC for 3 TDs. That is... not good.
      I'm wondering how banged up he was by the end of the season.

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      • Originally posted by beefytee View Post

        I'm wondering how banged up he was by the end of the season.
        Yeah, reports indicate he has been injured. That would explain a lot.

        I thought he played fine in the Houston game. You can't blame those drops and the other team mistakes on him.
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        • Overall a great season for BYU. Obviously what could have been can linger but even in the losses I see improvement over previous seasons. One of my crticisms of Kalani's tenure was the inconsistency. With the two losses you had one where BYU outplayed the opponent but failed to capitalize when it mattered most and had a hugely unlucky play go against them. Against ASU, I liked the fight in half 2. BYU is a good team a legit top 15 contender but let the chance to solidify itself as a top 10 team slip away from them. Probably way too early to discuss next year as who knows which coaches and key players will leave BYU between now and August, but I will do so anyway.

          I am still optimistic that BYU could be this good with Retzlaff at QB. He will be the limiting factor for the offense next year. I like theeturnees on offense. There is a good core for the OL-perhaps a portal addition or two will round it out but with a returning core of Luapaho, Mitchell, Makasini, Leusa and Jatta I think you could put together a good starting group. There are some strong recruits in the wings with Thomason, Brown and Tupou. I wonder if BYU has a shot of picking up that OT from Michigan who spurned BYU out of HS, I think he is from CO. I like the BYU skills position situation and really see no need for any immediate upgrades. I think LJ having en entire offseason healthy ought to help him to be more explosive next year and the 1-2 of he and Sione Moa sharing the RB position puts BYU is a real good situation, IMO.

          On defense I hope BYU can keep Jay Hill. I like the returning core of defensive players as well. If all the LBs come back they will be outstanding for any program. I think the secondary has as many good young players as it has ever had. The DL is concerning but even without any major personal additions I think it will be adequate. Similar to this season with no real standouts but a group where everyone just does their job. I do think there is some more flashier standout talent at DE but it might not shine through until the 2026 season. It wouldn't break my heart if BYU moved Siale Esera to DE and Pouha to DT. I do think that BYU ought to strongly consider a few pickups out of the portal at DL. But with Asiata, Schoonover, Pouha and the returning interior DL guys BYU won't be terrible on the DL.
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          • Kody Epps in the portal. Bummer he didn't pan out. Was super disappointed when he entered the portal the first time.

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            • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
              Kody Epps in the portal. Bummer he didn't pan out. Was super disappointed when he entered the portal the first time.
              And moderately meh'ed when he enters the second time. When he was good, he was good-- but that was a long time ago.

              Jackson Bowers in the portal too. Highly rated TE when he joined, but two years in he hasn't been able to get on the field.

              Not that I ever love losing guys that were good enough to contribute. But, so far, we are losing transfers out the bottom, not the top.
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              • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                And moderately meh'ed when he enters the second time. When he was good, he was good-- but that was a long time ago.

                Jackson Bowers in the portal too. Highly rated TE when he joined, but two years in he hasn't been able to get on the field.

                Not that I ever love losing guys that were good enough to contribute. But, so far, we are losing transfers out the bottom, not the top.
                What is the story with TEs at BYU? I know when Holker transferred out, everyone was up in arms about how no one throws to the TEs and its a problem because that is one of the only positions BYU can recruit at the elite level. Maybe they just aren't a focus of ARod's offense?

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                • Originally posted by USUC View Post

                  What is the story with TEs at BYU? I know when Holker transferred out, everyone was up in arms about how no one throws to the TEs and its a problem because that is one of the only positions BYU can recruit at the elite level. Maybe they just aren't a focus of ARod's offense?
                  I think it is a mixture of many things. For example with Retzlaff, I think how short he is prevents him being able to see well into the places tight ends routinely catch passes. I also think that Arod, and Kalani, are in the Whittingham mold of being conservative offensively so as to limit turnovers. Passes to tight ends are often in the middle of the field where there are more chances for interceptions.

                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                  -DOCTOR Wuap

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                  • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                    I think it is a mixture of many things. For example with Retzlaff, I think how short he is prevents him being able to see well into the places tight ends routinely catch passes. I also think that Arod, and Kalani, are in the Whittingham mold of being conservative offensively so as to limit turnovers. Passes to tight ends are often in the middle of the field where there are more chances for interceptions.
                    According to PFF Retzlaff actually throws over the the middle of the field almost more than any other QB in the nation, so I don't think that is the reason. I don't have the stats to back this up, but I just think receiving TEs in general aren't used very much in any team. Maybe they are used more for blocking or maybe it's because of the 3 and 4 WR sets being used so often. I don't know. I'd be very interested to know what % of pass plays that our TEs are the #1 or #2 option. Are they being used and just not getting open and/or thrown to? Or are they just not being used and even getting the chance? Are they simply not good enough to be given the chances? Or are we wasting potential talent? Is the TE going the way of the FB?
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                    • Originally posted by byufan4ever View Post

                      According to PFF Retzlaff actually throws over the the middle of the field almost more than any other QB in the nation, so I don't think that is the reason.
                      Lol.

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                      • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                        And moderately meh'ed when he enters the second time. When he was good, he was good-- but that was a long time ago.

                        Jackson Bowers in the portal too. Highly rated TE when he joined, but two years in he hasn't been able to get on the field.

                        Not that I ever love losing guys that were good enough to contribute. But, so far, we are losing transfers out the bottom, not the top.
                        I wouldn't mind it if Epps stayed and tried to thrive his final year but I'm going to bitch and kvetch about his leaving this time. Bowers is a bit of a bummer.

                        I was wrong about Retzy, I did not think he could get BYU to a 10 win season.

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                        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                          I wouldn't mind it if Epps stayed and tried to thrive his final year but I'm going to bitch and kvetch about his leaving this time. Bowers is a bit of a bummer.

                          I was wrong about Retzy, I did not think he could get BYU to a 10 win season.
                          We were all wrong on that point. Happily so.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                          • Micah Harper in the portal as well. I remember being super excited about him, but injuries have really hampered him and he's barely seen the field this season.
                            "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react." - Charles Swindoll

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                            • How are we all feeling about the likely bowl game vs Colorado? Even though it's a conference foe I kind of like it. Not sure we can win it, but I like it. The other option being thrown around seems to be WSU. That would be a real let down.

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                              • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
                                How are we all feeling about the likely bowl game vs Colorado? Even though it's a conference foe I kind of like it. Not sure we can win it, but I like it. The other option being thrown around seems to be WSU. That would be a real let down.
                                The other bowl I've heard is the Pop Tarts bowl against the loser ofvthe ACC championship. Clemson or Miami would be much bets than WSU. I don't hate the Colorado game, but don't love it.

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