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  • New Chip Brown article says Pac-12 says no to OU, OSU at this time.
    http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1263181
    Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott notified Oklahoma and Oklahoma State on Thursday the Pac-12 would not be expanding at this time, multiple sources have told Orangebloods.com.

    Scott's declaration - reiterated in comments he made to reporters at the Arizona State-Missouri game Friday night - raise questions about what Oklahoma's conference options are at this time.

    "We haven't spent one minute thinking about going further, that's not our desire," Scott told reporters Friday about possible expansion. "It's when all this discussion started happening in the Big 12 and it seems like the SEC is going to go beyond 12 and teams started approaching, let's take a step back and look at the future - if the landscape is going to change."

    Added Scott, "We think 12 is a good number and when we look at our peer conferences, they're at 12, too, so we think it's an evenly balanced, competitive landscape. And with the new TV deal that we've got done, the new network we've got, we're thrilled with our position. We've pretty completely repositioned where the Pac-12 fits in the overall landscape and we've got some real work to do to make 12 work."

    Oklahoma president David Boren last Friday sent shockwaves through the Big 12 by telling reporters the Sooners were being active in exploring their conference options.

    Subsequent reports out of Oklahoma said the Sooners were focused solely on the Pac-12. But that appears to be a dead end. For now.

    The Southeastern Conference has expressed interest in OU, dating to last year's realignment, sources said. Texas A&M also tried to convince OU to make the move to the SEC over the past month, sources said.

    But OU has repeatedly indicated there is not interest in the SEC.

    So what are the Sooners' options at this point?

    Unless OU changes its mind about the SEC, the Sooners' options may be limited.

    There are varying viewpoints within the Big 12 about whether Oklahoma would go anywhere without Texas. And Texas doesn't want to go anywhere. The Longhorns are working to hold the Big 12 together, so UT can hang onto its Longhorn Network.

    But Texas may have to work a little harder to convince OU's president and board of regents the Big 12 is worth sticking around for.

    Sources reiterated on Saturday that Texas appears willing to make some concessions to try and hold the league together. Orangebloods.com reported on Friday that sources indicate Texas is supportive of equal revenue sharing from the league's Tier 1 television deal with ABC/ESPN.

    But that doesn't necessarily help OU from a financial standpoint. In fact, it probably hurts the Sooners.

    OU is already one of the haves in the Big 12 when it comes to making more money from the Tier 1 contract (which pays the most to those who appear the most on TV). So sharing that revenue equally would probably mean a reduction in TV revenue for OU.

    Another source close to the situation said, "Texas needs to extend a hand to A&M and resolve the issues. Keeping A&M is the only way to save the Big 12."

    But A&M is focused solely on getting to the Southeastern Conference despite the threat of legal action from a handful of members in the Big 12 this week.

    "The events of this week have not changed our plans in regards to the Big 12," an A&M official told Orangebloods.com. "Our primary focus is on the SEC at this time."

    In other words, if holding A&M in the Big 12 is the only way to save the conference, the conference remains firmly in jeopardy no matter how long this forced marriage continues.

    Sounds like it's time for the Big 12 and its members to get creative in a hurry to figure things out during this pause in realignment.

    Or other conferences could use the time to get creative and entice members of the Big 12 to make plans to leave in a year or two - whenever A&M feels like it can get away.

    Stay tuned.

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    • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Who cares about TAMU etc. Why hasn't BYU been invited yet? INCINCEIVABLE!i
      They have been invited.

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      • Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
        They have been invited.
        INCINCEIVABLE!i
        So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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        • Once again Ute fans, we haven't forgotten about you and we love you.
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          • Originally posted by Devildog View Post
            You guys may be right... but we are reading about those PAC rights on ESPN... the only place I'm seeing this crap about BYU is on CUF.
            Are you related to SU?
            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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            • Well Creekster, you can guess what you want... but I am impressed with both of these predictions for this thread way back on the first page. You guys nailed it.

              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              This thread will either become the largest one of all time on Cuf, or stand as a silent rebuke and mockery of BYU fans' most fervent hopes and dreams.
              Originally posted by creekster View Post
              And either way you will crow that you knew it all along.
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              • Dear Texas,

                We held up our end of the bargain and let you win. Now let us in.

                Sincerely,

                BYU
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                • Scott saying they don't want to expand is posturing to avoid Baylor lawsuit.

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                  • One thing I really like about B12 games....at both the BLUE RIVER SHOOTouT and the Texas game, the bands take the field pre-game with a long line of flag bearers leading the way. The bearers carry the flag of each B12 member institution as well as several flag of the home school. It is a bit of college football pageantry that I really like. I was told that this is a B12 best practice, so I would assume any new conference members would adopt the tradition.

                    It would be really neat to see BYU flag bearers taking the field with the band toting flags of those schools. Also, I honestly think BYU would have the most incredible views of any stadium in the conference since it would also be the only stadium with mountains nearby.
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                    • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      One thing I really like about B12 games....at both the BLUE RIVER SHOOTouT and the Texas game, the bands take the field pre-game with a long line of flag bearers leading the way. The bearers carry the flag of each B12 member institution as well as several flag of the home school. It is a bit of college football pageantry that I really like. I was told that this is a B12 best practice, so I would assume any new conference members would adopt the tradition.

                      It would be really neat to see BYU flag bearers taking the field with the band toting flags of those schools. Also, I honestly think BYU would have the most incredible views of any stadium in the conference since it would also be the only stadium with mountains nearby.
                      That was pretty cool.

                      The view from my seats was nice as we could see the Austin skyline....but it wasn't as good as seeing the mountains.
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                      • It looks like it could be over.

                        Sources say OU board ready to apply to Pac 12
                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                          It looks like it could be over.

                          Sources say OU board ready to apply to Pac 12
                          I hate you Oklahoma.

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                          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                            It looks like it could be over.

                            Sources say OU board ready to apply to Pac 12
                            14 doesnt seem as clean as a 4 pod 16 team conference but if it happened they would have to do the zipper and everyone gets the "rivarly" game + play every other school from the other division once every 6 years (not counting the champ game).
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                            • I wonder what Colorado thinks of all of this. They just left the BIG 12 and will shortly be back in it again. This time possibly without having games in Texas if the Longhorns don't come.
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                              • Not good news.

                                Any chance the PAC-12 west schools will vote no?
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