The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[il Padrino Ute]

So was Utah until this year. That's what stings.

I agree with you about that. In Utah's favor is the what-have-you-done-lately argument. The two BCS wins in the last 5 years really helped sell Utah football.

If it were the other way around, the sting would be just as real for Ute fans. I realize that doesn't help you folks feel any better about it, but at least know that I will admit that it wouldn't be any fun.

[LA Ute]

I agree with you about that. In Utah's favor is the what-have-you-done-lately argument. The two BCS wins in the last 5 years really helped sell Utah football.

If it were the other way around, the sting would be just as real for Ute fans. I realize that doesn't help you folks feel any better about it, but at least know that I will admit that it wouldn't be any fun.

[jay santos]

If you're sincere, then why don't you stop posting in BYU threads for a while.

[Babs]

If you're sincere, then why don't you stop posting in BYU threads for a while.

seriously...we may have to go separate-but-equal for awhile.

[LA Ute]

If you're sincere, then why don't you stop posting in BYU threads for a while.

[Bengal Cougar]

This is not an unreasonable opinion

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=5679592

It's also a great example of how CB has deteriorated. No analysis or discussion. 20 or so replies in the thread and absolutely nothing of substance. Just people calling him a troll or an idiot and then fighting back and forth.

Patakicougar has been a long time troll, and I called him out on that. It's nearly impossible to have a real discussion with trolls, at least on the open message board. I did have a little bit of a discussion with Pataki through some board mails.

[SeattleUte]

Mods, isn't it time to put a padlock on this thread? Stop the suffering?

[YOhio]

He is talking about this post when you promised to stop being a miserable warthog rodent.

[LA Ute]

He is talking about this post when you promised to stop being a miserable warthog rodent.

But I've been nice since then!

[Uncle Ted]

I don't know if these have been posted yet but here are a couple of somewhat interesting articles on the Big 12.

Speculation on the conference championship game at JerryWorld:

The Big 12 has good reason to be concerned about the ramifications from losing that title-game date and TV spot. But it has several options available without messing with Texas and Oklahoma.

The Bedlam contest between OU and Oklahoma State could easily be moved back a week and would be a ratings winner. The annual Texas-Texas A&M showdown could also be played that first Saturday in December. Ditto for the bitter Kansas-Missouri rivalry, which has produced sold-out crowds and big TV ratings since moving to Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.

None of those games, however, would probably agree to move to JerryWorld. Bedlam fans would rightfully go bonkers if their historic rivalry wasn't contested within the borders of Oklahoma.

The current Red River Shootout contract runs through 2015 at the Cotton Bowl, where it has been contested every year since 1929.

It seems that the best option (besides conference expansion) would be moving the Texas-TAMU game.


Dan Beebe's confidential "Case For the Big 12 Conference" document:

Entitled "The Case for the Big 12 Conference," Beebe implored the leadership for a renewed commitment and investment in the league. He explored the division of revenue – a sticking point for many in the Big 12 because TV revenues are distributed unevenly – and touted that the Pac-10's revenue distribution results in a more disparate situation than in the Big 12. "In most years USC receives twice that of Washington State," Beebe wrote.

It sounds like the Pac 10 is worst than the Big 12 when it comes to sharing the pie.

[Babs]

OU-Oklahoma State a "ratings winner"? Maybe in the state of Oklahoma...

[DU Ute]

It sounds like the Pac 10 is worst than the Big 12 when it comes to sharing the pie.

I might be wrong, but I think the PAC gives everyone a more equal base share, but has incentives for top performers, while the Big-12 gives more money to Texas just for being Texas.

[Babs]

I might be wrong, but I think the PAC gives everyone a more equal base share, but has incentives for top performers, while the Big-12 gives more money to Texas just for being Texas.

lol. No. I posted the profit-sharing rules before. It's just that Texas comes out ahead in nearly every metric used in the calculations.

[il Padrino Ute]

lol. No. I posted the profit-sharing rules before. It's just that Texas comes out ahead in nearly every metric used in the calculations.

Now that you're a Longhorn, I'm sure you're okay with the revenue sharing as it is, right?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Now that you're a Longhorn, I'm sure you're okay with the revenue sharing as it is, right?

Wow. IPU is a socialist now?