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If BYU had beaten Arizona in 2008, would Utah have been elected no. 1 in the AP Poll?

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  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
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    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Five places WITHIN the top 10 and winding up in the top 5 (in Utah's case no. 2)?
    Your question never asked if any other team had moved to no. 2 from so far back. In my second link, WVU moves from outside the top 10 to no. 5 in the final rankings, had they been undefeated I can only imagine they would have been higher.

    Which program is better West Virginia or Utah?

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  • SeattleUte
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    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    It appears in that the final poll that Utah finished with 4 more votes than Appalachian State. yikes!
    As you know, I have no delusions about Utah's football history, or place in the football pantheon, unlike some here about their team.

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  • SeattleUte
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    Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    You do have to search far back into history to find a team that moved so many places up in the final poll.

    One team matched Utah's 5 places, another went from 17 to 10.

    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...m?appollid=972

    If you keep searching far back you will find a that same West Virginia team went from 11 to 5 in the final poll just 2 year previous.
    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...m?appollid=940

    The U also did this 5 spot movement in the final poll,
    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...?seasonid=2003

    What is the better program West Virginia or Utah?
    Five places WITHIN the top 10 and winding up in the top 5 (in Utah's case no. 2)?

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  • TripletDaddy
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    Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    You do have to search far back into history to find a team that moved so many places up in the final poll.

    One team matched Utah's 5 places, another went from 17 to 10.

    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...m?appollid=972

    If you keep searching far back you will find a that same West Virginia team went from 11 to 5 in the final poll just 2 year previous.
    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...m?appollid=940

    The U also did this 5 spot movement in the final poll,
    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...?seasonid=2003

    What is the better program West Virginia or Utah?
    It appears in that the final poll that Utah finished with 4 more votes than Appalachian State. yikes!

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  • Jarid in Cedar
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    Those damn Cougars and their 5th priorities.

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  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
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    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    This is an excellent point. The Utes were ranked 7 in the prior poll. They moved from 7 to no. 2 in the final AP poll. Has any team ever moved so far in the top ten between the final two polls? I bet not. Maybe they just had too much territory to cover to get to no. 1. On the other hand, the no. 1 team had a loss, Utah's win over Alabama in THE SUG was better than Florida's SEC championship win, and the Utes got a bunch of no. 1 votes. I have a hunch a strong BYU win over Arizona would have made the difference.

    Yet another good reason for Ute antipathy for BYU.
    You do have to search far back into history to find a team that moved so many places up in the final poll.

    One team matched Utah's 5 places, another went from 17 to 10.

    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...m?appollid=972

    If you keep searching far back you will find a that same West Virginia team went from 11 to 5 in the final poll just 2 year previous.
    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...m?appollid=940

    The U also did this 5 spot movement in the final poll,
    http://www.appollarchive.com/footbal...?seasonid=2003

    What is the better program West Virginia or Utah?
    Last edited by HuskyFreeNorthwest; 12-14-2009, 11:04 AM.

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  • SeattleUte
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    BIF, can you get a straw poll from the Utefans twentysomethings? Thanks in advance.

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  • SeattleUte
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    Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
    Finally, a poll that makes sense.

    The answer is 7.
    This is an excellent point. The Utes were ranked 7 in the prior poll. They moved from 7 to no. 2 in the final AP poll. Has any team ever moved so far in the top ten between the final two polls? I bet not. Maybe they just had too much territory to cover to get to no. 1. On the other hand, the no. 1 team had a loss, Utah's win over Alabama in THE SUG was better than Florida's SEC championship win, and the Utes got a bunch of no. 1 votes. I have a hunch a strong BYU win over Arizona would have made the difference.

    Yet another good reason for Ute antipathy for BYU.

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  • Blueintheface
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    Finally, a poll that makes sense.

    The answer is 7.

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  • jay santos
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    I voted yes. Thank God BYU lost.

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  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
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    I don't think BYU's bowl factored into Utah's final ranking in anyway, nor would it have.

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  • If BYU had beaten Arizona in 2008, would Utah have been elected no. 1 in the AP Poll?

    32
    yes
    12.50%
    4
    no
    87.50%
    28
    This seems to me the only logical explanation. A TCU blow out of Boise would have helped, though.

    (Not that I care; I'm satisfied with what happened, including Utes no. 1 in all the computer polls.)
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