BYU vs Gonzaga Thread

[SeattleUte]

By the way, 3D, it didn't go unnoticed how you said BYU has lacked a worthy rival year after year such as Gonzaga--BYU which has eaten someone's shit in the MWC the last three years WITH Jimmer, and tonight won its second NCAA game in 20+ years. After Saturday and saying adios to Jimmer you'll be where Pepperdine is now.

[Viking]

This is well stated. Put another way, Saturday is BYU's introduction to an epoch of eating Gonzaga's shit year after year. I saw both games tonight and CW got it exactly right--Wofford looked like a high school team, and Gonzaga looked super athletic and well meshed. I'm being serious now (unlike my Wofford prediction); the only chance you guys have is if Jimmer can hit about 20 of those 40 footers he likes to jack up.

I'm still laughing at Viking saying that Gonzaga has three talented big men but that's a good thing for BYU.

So, SU, how has byu won its games? Amazing paint/interior play?

Three big guys means byu takes more shots from the perimeter and given we are run and gun, three big guys normally means being able to run the floor without the other team being able to re-establish their defense.

We never dominate the boards. What's new? As I've said before, we live and die by our shooting, particularly our perimeter shooting.

[TripletDaddy]

After Saturday and saying adios to Jimmer you'll be where Pepperdine is now.

You are more correct than you know. I'm flying home on Monday for a couple of days. Thousand oaks is very close to Malibu.

[SeattleUte]

So, SU, how has byu won its games? Amazing paint/interior play?

Three big guys means byu takes more shots from the perimeter and given we are run and gun, three big guys normally means being able to run the floor without the other team being able to re-establish their defense.

We never dominate the boards. What's new? As I've said before, we live and die by our shooting, particularly our perimeter shooting.

Who do you think Vegas will favor in this game?

[Jacob]

You're not very smart. It's one thing to not understand and say you don't understand math. It's another thing to be an idiot with numbers and say you understand.

we avg 22.7 3 PTA/Gm.

with three big men inside, i assume we'll take 15% more 3pt shots or 26 total.

Making 25% = 6.5 3pt buckets or ~20 pts

We take 61.1 shots per gm (inc 3pt). I assume we take an addl 3 2pt shots plus the addl 3 3pt shots for a total of 67 shots per game. If 26 of those shots are 3pts of which we shoot 25% and shoot a total of 40% overall, that means we shoot roughly 49% of our 2pt shots (41 overall), or 20.3 made.

That equals 19.5 points from3s and 40.6 points from 2s for a total of 60.1 points.

We shoot 23.8 freethrows per game with a 75.6% success rate. Since we are taking roughly 10% more shots under my assumptions here, I also assume that our FTA will increase pari passu, or 26.1 attempts in total. 75.6% * 26.1 = 19.7 points from FT.

Total BYU score of 78 points

Gonzaga averages 75.9 points a game but if you look at the strength of the defenses they've played, it's TWICE as worse as the defenses the Cougars have faced. I assume they get to 73-75 points in a close one.

I'm not nuts, I just have asperberger's and by the way, fuck you.

You're nuts. We shoot that poorly. We lose badly.

[Viking]

Who do you think Vegas will favor in this game?

I would guess BYU -2.5

[SeattleUte]

I would guess BYU -2.5

I'm guessing it's the other way around.

[Viking]

You're nuts. We shoot that poorly. We lose badly.

I am not sure what you mean. I demonstrated the path to a winning score. Perhaps you'd like to take issue with my assumptions as opposed to a generalization?

[Viking]

I'm guessing it's the other way around.

By the stats, it will be close.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm being serious now (unlike my Wofford prediction);

Now that's funny.

[CJF]

I am not sure what you mean. I demonstrated the path to a winning score. Perhaps you'd like to take issue with my assumptions as opposed to a generalization?

I think what he means is if we shoot that poorly we won't score enough points to beat Gonzaga. I thought you said you were smart and good with numbers.

[Viking]

I'm guessing it's the other way around.

You're basing your decisions on the performance of Gonzaga against a shitty johnnie team.

Overrated, and I've said it numerous times here.

The Zags were 9-5 by the time they entered mighty WCC play. In-the-paint games have been tight for them. Guard-play out of conference have been difficult (schooled by K-State on neutral ground).

They split games with St. Mary's, which is one spot higher than them on the RPI.

We have the best player in the nation and the best player to ever call Utah his home for more than 2 years.

[Viking]

I think what he means is if we shoot that poorly we won't score enough points to beat Gonzaga. I thought you said you were smart and good with numbers.

I just showed how shooting 25% from three but w/greater frequency (as could be EASILY predicted against a team with 3 big men) can win the game.

[CJF]

I just showed how shooting 25% from three but w/greater frequency (as could be EASILY predicted against a team with 3 big men) can win the game.

I'm not sure who you convinced of that.

[smokymountainrain]

Emery takes Gray when BYU plays man.