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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
You read moral superiority in there? I think that's a bit unfair. Should BYU just cease to advertise their stated unique mission when it comes to athletics? Sounds like Travis was saying that for people who want to be disciples of Jesus Christ but also play basketball at the highest level, BYU is a great fit. I'm not saying we should always wear that on our sleeve like Bronco but if we are uncomfortable with Travis's statement I don't know how this model will have the long-term support of the BOT (as PAC noted).τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
In general, yes I'm talking about NIL. I think BYU should learn into the fact they have money and are willing to pay. We want success and we'll invest what it takes. No need to justify it any deeper than that.
As for your list, 1-3 and 6 are what are bringing 5 star athletes to the program. I respectfully think you (and many BYU fans) oversell BYU's nearly sole ownership of 4 and 5 in the college world. Many schools can offer 4 if that's important to you. It's just a matter of getting connected with that community. There are also a great many schools packed with students who live in a way that 5 is a formality. Anecdotally, I went to Tufts and my experience was overwhelmingly positive as the only LDS student in my class. I made lifelong friends and learned that many students lived very similarly to me and all on their own honor. BYU was a good experience, Tufts was equal to it in every way for me.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
SB, I think your present biases might be causing you to read things into Hansen's statement that aren't being said. I see how you can interpret it that way--and i'm not saying that's not a reasonable way to interpret his statement within a certain framework. But I also think that framework is making it so you can't see it another way, which I believe is actually the way he's intending.
I don't think he's saying "it's either BYU or empty nothingness" for everyone, what he's saying is that for certain players, BYU offers the bag in addition to something greater for those players who really want that. That something isn't for everyone. But for the right people it's extra great. AND you can get paid, too. We're not looking just for the guys who want to get paid. They can get paid anywhere. We're looking for the guys who want to get paid and who also want what BYU has to offer along with it. I don't think it's obtuse or moral superiority to say that BYU offers something that other schools don't. I think it's factual. That doesn't mean you can't have a transformational experience elsewhere. But you're not going to have the same transformation experience that BYU offers at Utah State. Or Utah (despite what Kwhittingham says). Or Notre Dame. Or SMU. You're just not. You can have a great, transformational experience in other ways. And those ways might be equally great for certain players. But they won't be the same. BYU is leaning into its uniqueness, and I don't think that's a bad thing.
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Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
I don't think we're that far apart. I fully agree with your first statement above. I do think BYU can offer a unique experience on 4 and 5, and as I noted, emphasizing 4 and 5 will narrow the field and bring players who have a good understanding of what to expect at BYU.
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As an aside, I'd love to see the contract Wright, Dybantsa, and others sign as part of their commitment and NIL deal. I assume it includes a forfeiture clause tied to Honor Code compliance which with the bag sizes we're talking about makes compliance far more likely, I'd expect, than for students generally.
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Saw a Robbie McCombs article that said the article about BYU being in lead for TT’s Williams was indeed AI generated and that the attributed author doesn’t actually exist. However BYU has apparently reached out. Robbie guessed that returning to TT is most likely result there though.
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As of today BYU has 10/15 possible scholarships allocated.
Those we can reasonably believe will be on next season's roster are:
Keba Keita- SR
Richie Saunders- SR
Dawson Baker- SR
Mihalo Boskovic - SR
Robert Wright - SO
Brody Kozlowski-FR
Dominique Diomande- FR
AJ Dybants - FR
Xavion Staton- FR
Khadim Mboup-FR
I think BYU is still recruiting a few players. Martin Sommerville is in for a visit. AFAIK, he is is the only transfer portal visit BYU has set up, but I am not in the know and these things move quickly. He would be a nice addition. BYU is linked to other potential transfers but in this day and age of AI generated trash I recommend the approach of not believing there is a genuine interest until recruiting visits get set up. I also expect BYU to add another international player or players during the summer.
With Sommerville, BYU has a fairly complete lineup, IMO. In a perfect world another younger dynamic wing who could step into a prominent role the following year would be a nice pickup, the Texas Tech P, Derrion Williams, would also be splendid as would another 5 who is ready to play 15-20 mpg, if needed, in Big 12 play. But if BYU has to play Boscovich and Staton at the 5 when Keita isn't on the court-I think they will be ok. Sommerville is reputed to be a combo guard so he could play at the 2 together with Wright-so I think BYU would be fine at the 1 and 2 with those two, Saunders and Baker. There are a lot of forward prospects but clearly a dearth of experience but oh well-you learn as you play.
But obviously, there is a long time left until the roster will be finalized and 5 potential scholarships available so things are likely to change.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostAs of today BYU has 10/15 possible scholarships allocated.
Those we can reasonably believe will be on next season's roster are:
Keba Keita- SR
Richie Saunders- SR
Dawson Baker- SR
Mihalo Boskovic - SR
Robert Wright - SO
Brody Kozlowski-FR
Dominique Diomande- FR
AJ Dybants - FR
Xavion Staton- FR
Khadim Mboup-FR
I think BYU is still recruiting a few players. Martin Sommerville is in for a visit. AFAIK, he is is the only transfer portal visit BYU has set up, but I am not in the know and these things move quickly. He would be a nice addition. BYU is linked to other potential transfers but in this day and age of AI generated trash I recommend the approach of not believing there is a genuine interest until recruiting visits get set up. I also expect BYU to add another international player or players during the summer.
With Sommerville, BYU has a fairly complete lineup, IMO. In a perfect world another younger dynamic wing who could step into a prominent role the following year would be a nice pickup, the Texas Tech P, Derrion Williams, would also be splendid as would another 5 who is ready to play 15-20 mpg, if needed, in Big 12 play. But if BYU has to play Boscovich and Staton at the 5 when Keita isn't on the court-I think they will be ok. Sommerville is reputed to be a combo guard so he could play at the 2 together with Wright-so I think BYU would be fine at the 1 and 2 with those two, Saunders and Baker. There are a lot of forward prospects but clearly a dearth of experience but oh well-you learn as you play.
But obviously, there is a long time left until the roster will be finalized and 5 potential scholarships available so things are likely to change.
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Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
Didn't Kozlowski play in a non-exhibition game this past season which burned his freshman year?Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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VTF has some good articles:
https://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2025/...chances-portal
UVU Transfer, Former BYU Guard Tanner Toolson Visiting BYU — What Are BYU’s Chances?
BYU may not need to be the highest NIL offer, but they will certainly need to be competitive if they want to land Tanner. Playing time will also be a factor for Tanner. He likely would not start at BYU next season, but BYU can pitch him the offer to be a rotation piece for his dream school on a final four caliber team, and then have to the chance to start the season after. Tanner has two seasons of eligibility remaining and will be a redshirt junior this coming season. I don’t see Tanner coming to BYU just because he’s a “BYU guy.” If BYU undercuts Tanner in their NIL offer or if he likes the roster situation better at other schools, he would likely go elsewhere.
UMass Lowell Transfer Martin Somerville Sets BYU Visit
The 6-foot-3 guard was named America East Rookie of the Year this past season after a productive freshman season. Somerville averaged 13.6 points, 3.7 assists, and 1.5 steals on 40.5% shooting from thee. Somerville shot 75-185 from three and averaged nearly 6 attempts per game.
BYU Basketball Recruiting Notebook: Rob Wright is Official; Where Else Does BYU Turn in the Portal?
Players confirmed on the roster (7)- AJ Dybantsa
- Xavion Staton
- Rob Wright
- Dominique Diomande
- Mihailo Boskovic
- Keba Keita
- Khadim Mboup
Richie Saunders, Dawson Baker, and Brody Kozlowski have not announced their intentions. Sources have told me that Baker and Kozlowski are both set to return. I still expect Richie Saunders to return to BYU, even if he elects to test the NBA Draft waters and conduct team workouts.
Martin Somerville, UMass Lowell Guard - BYU is a favorite to land him and has an in with assistant Brandon Dunson
Derrion Reid, Alabama Forward - Is friends with AJ Dybantsa
Darrion Williams, Texas Tech Forward - Probably returns to TTU
Tanner Toolson, UVU Guard - BYU not likely and other schools are "bidding" more NIL $ for him, plus playing time is a factor.
Peyton Marshall, Missouri Center - Assistant Tim Fanning coached Marshall at Overtime Elite
Mekhi Mason, Washington Guard - Wake Forest has been considered the favorite"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react." - Charles Swindoll
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Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
My understanding is he was awarded, or BYU is pursuing, a medical redshirt so as long as he didn't play more than whatever the threshold for Medical Redshirt is he ought to be good to go. Very similar to the situation with Tanner Toolsen his first year at BYU where he played a few games early and then got hurt and BYU used the injury to get him a Medical Redshirt and preserved him a year of eligibility.
The KSL roster tracker, updated yesterday, lists him as a Soph for 2025-26 (https://kslsports.com/ncaa/byu-baske...ster-26/544364 )
But if BYU can figure out a way to make it 2024-25 a redshirt year then that's great!
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Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
I hope you're right and he gets a redshirt, but as far as I know he was never injured. Maybe he had some undisclosed injury but based on available info, a medical redshirt seems unlikely. But I know jack-squat about it and have zero inside info.
The KSL roster tracker, updated yesterday, lists him as a Soph for 2025-26 (https://kslsports.com/ncaa/byu-baske...ster-26/544364 )
But if BYU can figure out a way to make it 2024-25 a redshirt year then that's great!"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Though I think he’s a lot of fun, I became a lot less bullish on Bosko’s future when smr reminded me he is 22, and will turn 23 before the season starts. I had in my head he was an 18/19 yo freshman and could see a big jump next season, but at this point I expect him to be pretty much the same player as he was this year.
hopefully he will prove me wrong!
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