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  • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

    Because that isn't a thing for the committee. I know, no one believes me when I say that. But I've followed the committee and selection process pretty darn close for over a couple of decades. It's just not.

    Last year because of the Sunday no play issue unfortunately they didn't have an option for giving us a 5 seed that we earned and they actually said that. That wasn't some huge slight.

    I would say there are only two times in history the committee's treatment of BYU was inexplicably bad. It was in 2003 and again in 2004 with those crazy 12 seeds. With every other seeding before and since there's not a credible argument that the committee was ever way off. You can try to argue a seed line one way or the other any year with almost any team, but that's not bias. Also I can't even think of a single time we didn't make the tournament but had a resume that deserved to.

    But this year no benefit of doubts is needed with this team anyway. That's something for bubble teams with lots of holes in their resume or for teams with late injuries to key players or who stumbled down the stretch with bonehead late losses or losing to a bad team in the first round of the conference tournament. This team is pretty much the opposite of that and took care of business down the stretch. It's not easy to win at Arizona or at Iowa State. Those are #3-4 seed teams. Byu historically doesn't win games like that very often. They won 8 in a row in a very respectable league when it mattered most. The committee rewards that stuff. Last year's team didn't have that nearly as much.
    Agree with all of this. I really think a 5 was locked in with the second Iowa State win. I suppose I won't be terribly shocked if we drop to a 6 but I would be disappointed. 7 would be a slight.

    Edut: Lunardi's change this morning to account for yesterday's games was to move BYU from a 5 in Providence to a 5 in Denver.

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    • I saw the NCAA's VP for basketball interviewed on CBS just before the Maryland/Michigan game. He said the committee is ahead of schedule and working now on selecting the last four at large teams and that the teams seeded 1 to 8 are already all placed with some contingency plans based on a few more tournaments to finish. So there you go. BYU is already placed.

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      • Fun bracket projection from the Athletic:

        Screenshot_20250316_094744_The Athletic.jpg

        I watched about 10 seconds of game time of Yale this season, which qualifies me to say that would be a very winnable game. Or rather, Yale doesn't scare me as much as an uber-athletic defense-first style of team that has so often been BYU's tournament kryptonite.

        A round of 32 matchup against Mark Pope and Kentucky would be very interesting.

        Duke is obviously the most likely to come out of their pod, but there's potential for going retro, WCC style, facing off against the Gonzaga Bulldogs.

        Pretty unlikely that the committee will come out with these exact games, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of those storylines are on the table.
        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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        • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
          Fun bracket projection from the Athletic:

          Screenshot_20250316_094744_The Athletic.jpg

          I watched about 10 seconds of game time of Yale this season, which qualifies me to say that would be a very winnable game. Or rather, Yale doesn't scare me as much as an uber-athletic defense-first style of team that has so often been BYU's tournament kryptonite.

          A round of 32 matchup against Mark Pope and Kentucky would be very interesting.

          Duke is obviously the most likely to come out of their pod, but there's potential for going retro, WCC style, facing off against the Gonzaga Bulldogs.

          Pretty unlikely that the committee will come out with these exact games, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of those storylines are on the table.
          I'd love that seeding, as long as the stench left behind on that court in December has been eliminated.

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          • That would be great. Some fun matchups there.

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            • Tough first round matchup for BYU.

              VCU IS #30 in kenpom. BYU is 24. Certainly not a first round gimme.

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              • BYU will get no respect until they demonstrate they can beat the VCUs of the world. It’s as good an opportunity as any to prove that they belong.

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                • From Wrubell:

                  VCU's best win: Colorado State on a neutral floor in Henderson, Nevada back on Dec. 14.

                  That was one of only two Quad 1 wins for VCU; the other was at Dayton on Feb. 7.

                  VCU played three Quad 1 games; BYU played 15.

                  VCU in Quads 1 and 2: 7-5
                  BYU in Quads 1 and 2: 14-9

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                  • Feed Fous on Thursday!
                    "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

                    "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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                    • Having played Iowa state twice and Houston should help us going into this game. VCU is one of the top defensive teams in the countries in several areas.

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                      • Just saying, everyone who said BYU was a lock at a 5 seed. You need to add +1.
                        "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react." - Charles Swindoll

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                        • While the first round matchup is a tough one, and they showed the graphic that the 6-11 games are a 50/50 proposition the last few years, I would still pick BYU to win it.

                          And looking at the rest of the region, I think that side of the bracket is better than any to give BYU a shot at the elite 8.

                          Here’s hoping for a first round win, then some lucky bounces and some hot shooting this tournament.

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                          • Originally posted by byufan4ever View Post
                            Just saying, everyone who said BYU was a lock at a 5 seed. You need to add +1.
                            My thoughts slightly above in this thread:

                            "I really think a 5 was locked in with the second Iowa State win. I suppose I won't be terribly shocked if we drop to a 6 but I would be disappointed. 7 would be a slight."

                            I still think the same. I'm disappointed but not shocked. And 7 (like Jerry Palm had projected) would have been a slap in the face. I'm fine with the match up. A trip to the second weekend is there for the taking.

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                            • UNC getting in is a bad look.
                              "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

                              "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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                              • Originally posted by Joe Public View Post
                                UNC getting in is a bad look.
                                That selection is getting crucified on CBS

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