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  • myboynoah
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    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

    There you go Elder Joe Cool!
    Ha. Ever in search of that elusive BYU Athletics Mission. Let's just do what everyone accuses us of doing, and make heads really explode.

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  • BigFatMeanie
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    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

    Somebody on the other sports site indicated he came home at 6'4" and 200 lbs- so real good size for a college guard. I never spent a great deal of time reading about his recruitment etc, but I just recall thinking that he wasn't going to be a huge difference maker. Hence, as these scholarship crunches started piling up I had always assumed that he would be a casualty of that.

    He still might be after this upcoming year, but time will tell. On the other hand maybe he will be a really good basketball player and he will be that elusive point guard of the future that Pope has never seemed to find and convince to come to BYU.
    The point guard that Pope has never seemed to find and convince to come to BYU in his whopping two seasons as BYU head coach?

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

    Sounds like a model the rest of the athletic department should adopt.
    There you go Elder Joe Cool!

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  • myboynoah
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    FWIW, Nate's mission president told the missionaries that he would rather have them exercising and working out rather that sitting on their butts during the pandemic so Nate was able to play a few hours of basketball every day and work out. Came home in good shape.
    Sounds like a model the rest of the athletic department should adopt.

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    FWIW, Nate's mission president told the missionaries that he would rather have them exercising and working out rather that sitting on their butts during the pandemic so Nate was able to play a few hours of basketball every day and work out. Came home in good shape.
    Somebody on the other sports site indicated he came home at 6'4" and 200 lbs- so real good size for a college guard. I never spent a great deal of time reading about his recruitment etc, but I just recall thinking that he wasn't going to be a huge difference maker. Hence, as these scholarship crunches started piling up I had always assumed that he would be a casualty of that.

    He still might be after this upcoming year, but time will tell. On the other hand maybe he will be a really good basketball player and he will be that elusive point guard of the future that Pope has never seemed to find and convince to come to BYU.

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I guess it sounds like Nate Hansen will be coming to BYU next year and will be on scholarship- I was pretty underwhelmed by what I read about Hansen so I had always assumed Pope wouldn't honor that scholarship.
    FWIW, Nate's mission president told the missionaries that he would rather have them exercising and working out rather that sitting on their butts during the pandemic so Nate was able to play a few hours of basketball every day and work out. Came home in good shape.

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  • Pelado
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    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

    As far as I can tell it is about the only interesting question of going into next year- how will BYU play the post? I am convinced Lohner will start at the 4 and probably play 28 mpg. I think Harward will start at the 5 alongside Lohner, but perhaps Baxter will start at the 5 alongside Lohner. I tend to think these 3 will log the majority of the 80 mpg for the two post positions, but how will BYU react when they need a 4th post player. Will they go with either Atiki or Traore or will they go small ball and play George at the 4 with Lohner, Harward or Baxter at the 5? Likely will depend on situations and matchups and perhaps all options will be used at different times for different reasons.

    It would be comforting if Atiki arrives and is able to play 10-15 mpg as a reserve 5. I don't see as much opportunity for Traore to play as much next year as BYU has two natural 4's in Lohner and Baxter and George could play there if needed. I see BYU as less deep at the 5 than they are at the 4.

    But I am talking about an issue with limited memory of what Baxter can do and prognosticating about two freshman that I know next to nothing about. I expect Lohner to be one of BYU's best offensive players next year- I think he develops into a consistent 14-16 ppg player. Harward is a good role player who would be a solid back up for most college programs. I think if he is playing 24-26 mpg for BYU he likely will score 7 ppg and 8 rpg player. I don't know about the rest.
    I forgot about Baxter. Based on the current roster, I would expect him to start at the 5 with Lohner at the 4. I think Baxter could play the 4. But starting Baxter at the 4 would presumably push Lohner to the 3. There are other good options at the 3, so I don't see the need to have Lohner in that spot just to make room for Harward at the 5. So I wouldn't expect to see Baxter at the 4 except when Lohner is on the bench for rest or foul trouble.

    If Atiki is really good at the 5 right away, then maybe it would make sense to shift Lohner and Baxter to the 3 and 4, respectively.

    I think Lohner will probably get 28-30 minutes per game, primarily at the 4. They'll probably keep Baxter's minutes a bit lower - especially early in the season - to protect his (apparently) brittle body and to make sure he's properly conditioned, so he'll probably be in the 20-25 mpg range. Harward will play exclusively at the 5. I expect him to get 10-15 mpg. That would leave up to 10 mpg for Atiki at the 5. I could also see 5-10 mpg for Traore at the 4 (with Lohner/Baxter/George taking the rest).

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    Originally posted by Pelado View Post
    I mostly agree, but I think the freshmen bigs will probably see more than spot duty.

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    As far as I can tell it is about the only interesting question of going into next year- how will BYU play the post? I am convinced Lohner will start at the 4 and probably play 28 mpg. I think Harward will start at the 5 alongside Lohner, but perhaps Baxter will start at the 5 alongside Lohner. I tend to think these 3 will log the majority of the 80 mpg for the two post positions, but how will BYU react when they need a 4th post player. Will they go with either Atiki or Traore or will they go small ball and play George at the 4 with Lohner, Harward or Baxter at the 5? Likely will depend on situations and matchups and perhaps all options will be used at different times for different reasons.

    It would be comforting if Atiki arrives and is able to play 10-15 mpg as a reserve 5. I don't see as much opportunity for Traore to play as much next year as BYU has two natural 4's in Lohner and Baxter and George could play there if needed. I see BYU as less deep at the 5 than they are at the 4.

    But I am talking about an issue with limited memory of what Baxter can do and prognosticating about two freshman that I know next to nothing about. I expect Lohner to be one of BYU's best offensive players next year- I think he develops into a consistent 14-16 ppg player. Harward is a good role player who would be a solid back up for most college programs. I think if he is playing 24-26 mpg for BYU he likely will score 7 ppg and 8 rpg player. I don't know about the rest.

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  • Pelado
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    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    Barcello has made it public he is returning. I guess it sounds like Nate Hansen will be coming to BYU next year and will be on scholarship- I was pretty underwhelmed by what I read about Hansen so I had always assumed Pope wouldn't honor that scholarship. Hence, I think this is the allocated scholarships for next year:

    Barcello- SR (Super Senior Covid deal where his scholarship doesn't count against BYU's allocation of 13)
    1.) Lucas- SR
    2.) Baxter - JR
    3.) Harward - JR
    4.) George- JR
    5.) Johnson - SO
    6.) Knell- SO
    7.) Lohner - FR
    8.) Ericson- FR
    9.) Stewart - FR
    10.) Hansen- FR
    11.) Atiki - FR
    12.) Traore- FR

    BYU still has one scholarship to award for next year. I understand they are still pursuing a couple of portal options and perhaps even a potential freshman point guard from Sweden or somewhere in Scandinavia. Time will tell but I could even see BYU just eating that scholarship/awarding it to a faithful walk-on for a year. Or perhaps keeping it in the breech and perhaps a late transfer might develop.

    For this year I think the following players will consistently be in BYU's rotation: Barcello, Lucas, George, Lohner, Harward, Baxter, Knell and Johnson. If BYU lands a decent big transfer that fellow will be in the rotation and if BYU doesn't land a big than my guess is Atiki and Traore might see some spot minutes in the rotation on occasion. But for the most part I think the primary 8 will take the majority of the minutes this season. I think BYU will be better next year than they were this past season-just with this rotation. I think BYU will be better at every position except center. Losing Haarms will hurt but I expect the improvement from the rest and continuity will make BYU a better team and afford it to build a strong resume. I think BYU will win a first round tournament game.

    Of the 12 players on scholarship next year 11 are scheduled to return. For next year I would think that a transfer, likely a grad transfer, PG will be the top priority with both Lucas and Barcello moving on after this year. With 3 perimeter players coming off of missions in Hall, Toolson and Saunders BYU will have 4 players join the program next year. Hence, I think at least 2 of the 11 will move on after the 21-22 season. Likely perimeter players as BYU is likely going to only have 5 players as primary 4 and 5 so a bit thin in that area.

    I was really hoping/expecting BYU to find a young PG to play a reserve role this year as if the transfer portal fails Pope next summer at the PG position he could be a world of hurt with his primary PG coming out of the group consisting of RM Dallin Hall, Hunter Ericson, Trey Stewart or Nate Hansen.
    I mostly agree, but I think the freshmen bigs will probably see more than spot duty.

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    Barcello has made it public he is returning. I guess it sounds like Nate Hansen will be coming to BYU next year and will be on scholarship- I was pretty underwhelmed by what I read about Hansen so I had always assumed Pope wouldn't honor that scholarship. Hence, I think this is the allocated scholarships for next year:

    Barcello- SR (Super Senior Covid deal where his scholarship doesn't count against BYU's allocation of 13)
    1.) Lucas- SR
    2.) Baxter - JR
    3.) Harward - JR
    4.) George- JR
    5.) Johnson - SO
    6.) Knell- SO
    7.) Lohner - FR
    8.) Ericson- FR
    9.) Stewart - FR
    10.) Hansen- FR
    11.) Atiki - FR
    12.) Traore- FR

    BYU still has one scholarship to award for next year. I understand they are still pursuing a couple of portal options and perhaps even a potential freshman point guard from Sweden or somewhere in Scandinavia. Time will tell but I could even see BYU just eating that scholarship/awarding it to a faithful walk-on for a year. Or perhaps keeping it in the breech and perhaps a late transfer might develop.

    For this year I think the following players will consistently be in BYU's rotation: Barcello, Lucas, George, Lohner, Harward, Baxter, Knell and Johnson. If BYU lands a decent big transfer that fellow will be in the rotation and if BYU doesn't land a big than my guess is Atiki and Traore might see some spot minutes in the rotation on occasion. But for the most part I think the primary 8 will take the majority of the minutes this season. I think BYU will be better next year than they were this past season-just with this rotation. I think BYU will be better at every position except center. Losing Haarms will hurt but I expect the improvement from the rest and continuity will make BYU a better team and afford it to build a strong resume. I think BYU will win a first round tournament game.

    Of the 12 players on scholarship next year 11 are scheduled to return. For next year I would think that a transfer, likely a grad transfer, PG will be the top priority with both Lucas and Barcello moving on after this year. With 3 perimeter players coming off of missions in Hall, Toolson and Saunders BYU will have 4 players join the program next year. Hence, I think at least 2 of the 11 will move on after the 21-22 season. Likely perimeter players as BYU is likely going to only have 5 players as primary 4 and 5 so a bit thin in that area.

    I was really hoping/expecting BYU to find a young PG to play a reserve role this year as if the transfer portal fails Pope next summer at the PG position he could be a world of hurt with his primary PG coming out of the group consisting of RM Dallin Hall, Hunter Ericson, Trey Stewart or Nate Hansen.

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    BYU got a commitment from grad transfer Te'Jon Lucas. A 6'2" pg who does everything well except shoot. He was an on again off again starter at Illinois as a Frosh/Soph and then transferred for his final 2 years to Milwaukie where he was twice all Horizon Conference.

    Word is BYU is still pursuing a big out of the transfer market. Then once Barcello makes up his mind the roster should be complete.

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  • Applejack
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    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

    At least its a sign they don't hate their coach.
    Tender mercies

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  • frank ryan
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    Originally posted by Applejack View Post

    Yes, we traded most of our team for USU's guards. Seems risky, but

    But it was all worth it to be rid of Krysko Meth.
    At least its a sign they don't hate their coach.

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  • Pelado
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    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

    Not sure why he didn't like BYU's situation better than UNLV. Kruger the Younger must be a pretty good salesman!
    Cough...honor code...cough, cough.

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  • Goatnapper'96
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    Whoopsie.
    Not sure why he didn't like BYU's situation better than UNLV. Kruger the Younger must be a pretty good salesman!

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