Saudi journalist chopped to bits

[Walter Sobchak]

$17 billion in arms sales. One dead journalist ain't no thing.

Bump.

[Topper]

No fallout for Saudi Arabia, just will not hold them accountable, just like he does with Russia. He's more concerned with our real enemies, the EU and NATO.

Ordering the murder of a reporter is a very bad thing, assuming this all to be true. I don't condone it. The individual murdered was a Saudi citizen, not a US citizen. And it was very imprudent to murder a journalist. Yet, no vital economic or strategic interest of the US was damaged or threatened, unless you consider the lack of esteem and credibility a US ally has as damage. More strangely, the Dems play into Erdrogan's hands, who is just as bad in harassing journalists as the Kingdom and seeks to gain power in that region, even though Turkey and the US have cooled relations.

But what do you want the US to do? Punish Saudi Arabia so that Saudi Arabia moves into the Russian sphere of influence who will always look the other way? The US has so few friendly alliances in that region of the world I don't understand the desire to destroy the alliance. Yes there are lots of terrorists within its boundaries, and yes its government is tyrannical.

The way I see it is that the Dems are big on damaging alliances with allies, unless it's simply to kowtow the European wishes, but don't believe in nurturing those ties which provide strategic benefits. Nobody will tout the virtue of the Saudi Royal Family. Nobody. However, sometimes pragmatism must prevail. I really don't understand the Democrats to severe the ties with Saudi Arabia.

[Bo Diddley]

No fallout for Saudi Arabia, just will not hold them accountable, just like he does with Russia. He's more concerned with our real enemies, the EU and NATO.

The US isn't the only player on the world stage, and Trump won't be around forever. The piper will be paid--but what cost will they bear?

[frank ryan]

CIA says Crown Prince ordered the killing of Khashoggi. I suspected this from early on. What's the fall-out? Maybe not so much from our current Executive Branch, but long-term, how will this play out?

No fallout for Saudi Arabia, Orange Il Duce will not hold them accountable, just like he does with Russia. He's more concerned with our real enemies, the EU and NATO.

[Bo Diddley]

CIA says Crown Prince ordered the killing of Khashoggi. I suspected this from early on. What's the fall-out? Maybe not so much from our current Executive Branch, but long-term, how will this play out?

[creekster]

Social media is the main offender when it comes to nonsense commentary, and not the traditional outlets, IMO.

I see the problem not that the commentary is nonsense, but that neither the outlets nor their viewers seem to discern the difference between commentary and fact based reporting, the latter of which has largely disappeared.

[falafel]

Social media is the main offender when it comes to nonsense commentary, and not the traditional outlets, IMO.

This chat board included!

[Uncle Ted]

Easy there. Nobody claimed it isn't news. Yesterday I saw some left-wing commentator on twitter saying it was the worst single-day attack on democracy in US history. Good grief. Some nutjob mailed some non-functioning bombs. Let's keep a little perspective here.

*if they just used enough postage...

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[BlueK]

I have been working at home some this week and have had the tv on in the background flipping between channels. I don’t think the three major cable news channels even make much of an effort to separate opinion and commentary from fact reporting. They don’t even bleed into each other anymore. They are almost indistinguishable.


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Social media is the main offender when it comes to nonsense commentary, and not the traditional outlets, IMO.

[creekster]

Commentary is different, and yes in some cases, and of course especially over social media, it has been over the top on both sides. But the straight reporting on traditional sources like CNN and others has been pretty straightforward and professional, IMO.

I have been working at home some this week and have had the tv on in the background flipping between channels. I don’t think the three major cable news channels even make much of an effort to separate opinion and commentary from fact reporting. They don’t even bleed into each other anymore. They are almost indistinguishable.


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[BlueK]

Easy there. Nobody claimed it isn't news. Yesterday I saw some left-wing commentator on twitter saying it was the worst single-day attack on democracy in US history. Good grief. Some nutjob mailed some non-functioning bombs. Let's keep a little perspective here.

Commentary is different, and yes in some cases, and of course especially over social media, it has been over the top on both sides. But the straight reporting on traditional sources like CNN and others has been pretty straightforward and professional, IMO.

[Jeff Lebowski]

It's still news. Does someone have to die before the media decides to report on it? Now go find who did it and let him serve some time in the slammer.

Easy there. Nobody claimed it isn't news. Yesterday I saw some left-wing commentator on twitter saying it was the worst single-day attack on democracy in US history. Good grief. Some nutjob mailed some non-functioning bombs. Let's keep a little perspective here.

[BlueK]

I am with Pinker on this one. Yawn...

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It's still news. Does someone have to die before the media decides to report on it? Now go find who did it and let him serve some time in the slammer.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I am with Pinker on this one. Yawn...

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[BlueK]

There is the "smok'n gun"!... and now even CNN said it was so. You should call the FBI.

Doesn't prove anything. Does cast at least a little doubt on the conspiracy theory that this is somehow a DNC orchestrated fake attack on its own people. I wonder if they asked the Clinton's or pres Obama if they were ok with it.