President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[falafel]

They are purely performative, and have been since long before Trump, although with Trump the level of obsequiousness has reached the stratosphere. Why having more such meetings is thought to be a positive is mystifying. Any real work is done behind closed doors with a much smaller cast, as it should be.

In a seminar on the Cabinet taught by Ed Firmage fifty years ago, my favorite story was when an LBJ cabinet meeting began with a prayer offered by Bill Moyers who sitting at the end of the table. A few seconds into the prayer, LBJ bellowed, "Bill, speak up, I can't hear you!," to which Moyers replied quietly, "I wasn't talking to you."

I was privileged to take one of Ed Firmage's classes in in my time at the S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah.

[frank ryan]

I was privileged to take one of Ed Firmage's classes in in my time at the S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah.

Somehow I didn't know or remember you went there

[falafel]

Somehow I didn't know or remember you went there

2003-2006. My face is on the wall in the law building!

[frank ryan]

2003-2006. My face is on the wall in the law building!

That's crazy.
I was finishing up my undergrad there at the time.

[dabrockster]

What does a cabinet meeting accomplish such that we should be counting them? Under Trump they just seem to be the leaders of each department telling Trump how wonderful he is and how everything is rosy. A far cry from Lincoln's team of rivals.

What I have come to expect is that no matter the level or trivial item, there will be mocking. I find it ironic in comparison to previous Presidency’s. And in response, the mockery of the Cabinet meeting has now shifted from mocking to they are irrelevant. The pendulum swings so far each direction, my neck is twisted in so many ways.

I am sure if he had them and removed any press, we will see bitching about that too.

The point is simple, he hold public meetings. So what. Who gives a fuck. Again, there are much bigger issues which are serious that I can concur and agree hpob. But when it is petty shit like this.

i guess we can go back to Biden who rarely held Cabinet meetings, let alone meetings behind closed doors with his cabinet. Which never happened.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/th...nd-its-coverup

[Northwestcoug]

What I have come to expect is that no matter the level or trivial item, there will be mocking. I find it ironic in comparison to previous Presidency’s. And in response, the mockery of the Cabinet meeting has now shifted from mocking to they are irrelevant. The pendulum swings so far each direction, my neck is twisted in so many ways.

I am sure if he had them and removed any press, we will see bitching about that too.

The point is simple, he hold public meetings. So what. Who gives a fuck. Again, there are much bigger issues which are serious that I can concur and agree hpob. But when it is petty shit like this.

i guess we can go back to Biden who rarely held Cabinet meetings, let alone meetings behind closed doors with his cabinet. Which never happened.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/th...nd-its-coverup

2 things can be true Brock. Biden was a bad president who was actively kept from the public eye in an attempt to fool the country. And Trump is a terrible president who looks for any televised opportunity to show how eager his sycophantic cabinet is to kiss his ass.

[USUC]

2 things can be true Brock. Biden was a bad president who was actively kept from the public eye in an attempt to fool the country. And Trump is a terrible president who looks for any televised opportunity to show how eager his sycophantic cabinet is to kiss his ass.

Corruption and abuse of the pardon power by Biden was plain for everyone to see. Crazy that MAGA now turns a blind eye to naked corruption at every level of this administration.

[myboynoah]

Oof.

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[myboynoah]

2 things can be true Brock. Biden was a bad president who was actively kept from the public eye in an attempt to fool the country. And Trump is a terrible president who looks for any televised opportunity to show how eager his sycophantic cabinet is to kiss his ass.

It's like a SNL bit, but real.

[dabrockster]

2 things can be true Brock. Biden was a bad president who was actively kept from the public eye in an attempt to fool the country. And Trump is a terrible president who looks for any televised opportunity to show how eager his sycophantic cabinet is to kiss his ass.

Completely agree with this..

[dabrockster]

Corruption and abuse of the pardon power by Biden was plain for everyone to see. Crazy that MAGA now turns a blind eye to naked corruption at every level of this administration.

Not sure about turning a blind eye. However, there was similar turning of blind eyes for Biden’s time. Soo.

[falafel]

What I have come to expect is that no matter the level or trivial item, there will be mocking. I find it ironic in comparison to previous Presidency’s. And in response, the mockery of the Cabinet meeting has now shifted from mocking to they are irrelevant. The pendulum swings so far each direction, my neck is twisted in so many ways.

I am sure if he had them and removed any press, we will see bitching about that too.

The point is simple, he hold public meetings. So what. Who gives a fuck. Again, there are much bigger issues which are serious that I can concur and agree hpob. But when it is petty shit like this.

i guess we can go back to Biden who rarely held Cabinet meetings, let alone meetings behind closed doors with his cabinet. Which never happened.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/th...nd-its-coverup

He doesn't hold public meetings, he holds public worship sessions. Have you ever watched these cabinet meetings? Have you watched ANY cabinet meetings of any president?

Your point about there being much bigger issues is well-taken. Why in the world are we pulling away from their jobs the most important people in the U.S. government so they can tell President Trump about how wonderful HE is and how no one else could have done anything. All while Trump snoozes...

There are so many incredibly important things going on in the world, why is Trump (and you, apparently) so concerned with petty shit like this?

[falafel]

Not sure about turning a blind eye. However, there was similar turning of blind eyes for Biden’s time. Soo.

Yes, LET ALL OUR EYES BE BLIND TO CORRUPTION!

[dabrockster]

He doesn't hold public meetings, he holds public worship sessions. Have you ever watched these cabinet meetings? Have you watched ANY cabinet meetings of any president?

Your point about there being much bigger issues is well-taken. Why in the world are we pulling away from their jobs the most important people in the U.S. government so they can tell President Trump about how wonderful HE is and how no one else could have done anything. All while Trump snoozes...

There are so many incredibly important things going on in the world, why is Trump (and you, apparently) so concerned with petty shit like this?

No. I have not, nor do I care too. As I said, this is low on a list of things that really matter. This is a publicity stunt and he is going to do what he does as will his cabinet members.

As for, “Let’s ALL turn a blind eye to corruption.”. Exactly. The hypocrisy for one sided corruption is my point. As for things Trump is doing. There are things I can agree and others I do not.

one thing is for certain. During Biden’s time, my 401K was losing tons of money from his shitty policies. In one quarter, I have had one of the largest gain since last time he was in office. Now.. THAT I can get behind..

[Northwestcoug]

one thing is for certain. During Biden’s time, my 401K was losing tons of money from his shitty policies. In one quarter, I have had one of the largest gain since last time he was in office. Now.. THAT I can get behind..

I'm no finance guy, but my retirement account grew during Biden's term. It tracked with the stock market, which grew at a nice pace the last year of his presidency.

Is your 401k strategy sound? Might want to talk to Moliere about it.