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  • Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

    Is it okay if I quote this in the abortion thread?
    Absolutely. While you’re at it, give me a list of all the prosecutions or disciplinary action that have ever gotten started based on violations of the Texas abortion law.
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    • Originally posted by All-American View Post

      Absolutely. While your at it, give me a list of all the prosecutions or disciplinary action that have ever gotten started based on violations of the Texas abortion law.
      Your?
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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      • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

        Your?
        Thanks. Corrected.
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        • Originally posted by All-American View Post

          Absolutely. While you’re at it, give me a list of all the prosecutions or disciplinary action that have ever gotten started based on violations of the Texas abortion law.

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...an-miscarriage

          https://www.nbcnews.com/health/women...ths-rcna178660

          Of course, this is not exactly what you asked for but women did die due to fear of disciplinary action.

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          • Originally posted by All-American View Post

            I mean, that's not wrong, but a government prosecutor can do a lot of damage up to and before the point of acquittal. That's one of the reasons for immunity in the first place-- to make sure the prosecutions never even get started.
            I'm just of the side that believes the much greater risk now is of presidents acting above the law and abusing their power while in office.

            For example, ordering the military to go after political opponents is an immune act now.

            https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/08/polit...ump/index.html

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            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

              I'm just of the side that believes the much greater risk now is of presidents acting above the law and abusing their power while in office.

              For example, ordering the military to go after political opponents is an immune act now.

              https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/08/polit...ump/index.html
              It's antiquated to scold people for worrying about this SCOTUS being able to hold Trump accountable or worrying about any element or political structure holding Trump accountable.

              Anyone who bothered to has been exiled and long ago sounded the alarm. I think we now have him being managed being insidious opportunists like Vance.

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              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                I'm just of the side that believes the much greater risk now is of presidents acting above the law and abusing their power while in office.

                For example, ordering the military to go after political opponents is an immune act now.

                https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/08/polit...ump/index.html
                The best option, of course, would be to pick morally decent presidents that would not commit criminal acts.

                If that is not what the people want, I don’t know that judges will save them from the consequences of their own choices.
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                • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                  The best option, of course, would be to pick morally decent presidents that would not commit criminal acts.

                  If that is not what the people want, I don’t know that judges will save them from the consequences of their own choices.
                  I think it's becoming increasingly clear that a majority of voters don't care about morality in their leaders, so long as they either hate or go after the right groups.
                  "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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                  • Harris to replace Sotomayor... what a great idea!

                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                      The best option, of course, would be to pick morally decent presidents that would not commit criminal acts.

                      If that is not what the people want, I don’t know that judges will save them from the consequences of their own choices.
                      I thought checks and balances was supposed to save them from the consequences. It seems you are saying the scotus did indeed hurt those checks

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                      • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                        I thought checks and balances was supposed to save them from the consequences. It seems you are saying the scotus did indeed hurt those checks
                        Not at all what I said.

                        Checks and balances are intended to protect one branch of government from being overrun by another. At the end of the day, though, each branch draws its power, however filtered, from the people. The best-designed democracy in the world won't save the electorate from the consequences of their own choices.
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                        • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                          Not at all what I said.

                          Checks and balances are intended to protect one branch of government from being overrun by another. At the end of the day, though, each branch draws its power, however filtered, from the people. The best-designed democracy in the world won't save the electorate from the consequences of their own choices.
                          Huh?

                          Part of the strategy reaching all the way up to the SCOTUS is is judicial activism on the part of the Heritage Foundation. Kudos to them, it's been successful.

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                          • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                            I think it's becoming increasingly clear that a majority of voters don't care about morality in their leaders, so long as they either hate or go after the right groups.
                            I finally have a convert! Politics demonstrates a symptom of our deeper issues.
                            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                            -General George S. Patton

                            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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                            • This is fun. A lot of people are making fun of it on Twitter, but I think it's cool. Pretty wild that she was in a drama class with Matt Damon.

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