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Originally posted by All-American View Post
My opinion: of the four President/Vice President candidates, Vance is by far the most politically talented. He also has no moral compass or position that he stands for. He'll do what's expedient for himself and whichever team he is aligned with in the moment, and he'll usually do it pretty effectively. He's already set himself up to be the Republican frontrunner in 2028 no matter what happens this cycle."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by All-American View Post
My opinion: of the four President/Vice President candidates, Vance is by far the most politically talented. He also has no moral compass or position that he stands for. He'll do what's expedient for himself and whichever team he is aligned with in the moment, and he'll usually do it pretty effectively. He's already set himself up to be the Republican frontrunner in 2028 no matter what happens this cycle.
No wonder Ted is so excited about his presidency lol.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by falafel View Post
Yes. Exactly my point. He is an empty vessel, filled with whatever will get him where he wants.
No wonder Ted is so excited about his presidency lol.
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Originally posted by Shaka View Post
JD's clearly not an empty vessel. He went through too much to get where he is. However, he's is a politician and in that way no different from most other politicians.
I agree that politicians are all about themselves. But JD does not care about hiding the fact that he is nakedly interested in power, the same as Trump.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostIt's what politicians have been doing for centuries. JD is typical in that way.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Please give us all of these past examples where people have had to so completely bend the knee to one individual to retain access to political power."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostPlease give us all of these past examples where people have had to so completely bend the knee to one individual to retain access to political power.
Now Harris is her god so she can feel relevant
again."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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What does "going through too much to get where his is," mean?
He fabricated a great deal of his memoir. We've had a lot of politicians who didn't exactly have everything handed to them like some like Trump or Bush or JFK has.
Obama and Clinton didn't come from exalted circumstances. That doesn't make someone immune from having sketchy ethics. These are not normal times. Vance is not your typical VP candidate. He was vetted in part for his willingness to put his adherence and loyalty to Trump over all else.
Trump blame Pence for their falling out and he didn't do the "right thing." He doesn't have to worry about that with Vance. Hell Vance has admitted he has intentionally spread untrue rumors about people fleeing horrific unrest and bloodshed eating household pets without remorse. That's not typical politician stuff.
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
Here’s two obvious ones: The war mongering Cheneys. Recall what Liz previously thought of Kamala… she lost her re-election in a record loss.
Now Harris is her god so she can feel relevant
again."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostIt's what politicians have been doing for centuries. JD is typical in that way.
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Originally posted by Maximus View Post
I thought you didn't like trump and anyways that site is from Republicans man
You are correct, I don't like Trump but I dislike Harris as well-I don't see her as a viable alternative.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
I tire of the moral pretense. There isn't really a moral option IMO and mostly because of that very specific reason the attacks on Trump don't work. I think Trump is going to win this thing and Democrats & NeverTrumpers are standing with a dumbfounded look saying "How can this be when we told you how bad he was?"
You are correct, I don't like Trump but I dislike Harris as well-I don't see her as a viable alternative.
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