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  • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    I've been thinking a lot about President Nelson's April 2023 "Peacemakers Needed" conference address. As evidenced by this 113 page thread, President Nelson has been a transformational church leader. But I think this talk was genuinely one of the most prophetic of his presidency. Prophetic as in acting as a mouthpiece of God speaking to his children and telling them to stop fighting and be nice.



    One of the challenges of this talk is that it forces introspection, especially when my natural instinct is to think of all the others to whom it applies. Back in the October 2020 General Conference Elder Oaks gave a talk titled "Love Your Enemies." In the talk he vaguely referenced the BLM riots of Summer 2020, but also spoke of peacefully accepting election results. Around the time I was EQ instructor and asked to use this talk for a lesson in late December, just prior to Jan 6. After teaching the lesson I got a handful of texts from a few of our more conservative members referencing the BLM riots. A couple weeks later after the Capitol riots I had a couple conversations with more liberal members where they mentioned the talk. I was struck by how in all of these interactions the condemnation was pointed outward. As if they were using a conference talk as a mote x-ray for their brother when the entire point is that it should be a self-administered beam scanner.

    This has been on my mind a lot lately and inspired me to try be better, particularly as the election season rolls around. My tendency is to seek after anything that is the opposite of 'virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy.' Especially when it makes someone I don't like look bad. It's not easy and I'm sure I'll fail at times, especially when I'm really good at saying mean things. Like if it were a gift of the spirit I'd have it. But I'm trying to listen carefully and redefine my standard of communication.
    Preach!

    After this talk, I recognized that one of the side effects of my poor communication with the missus was that I'd often just try to bottle things up and that often came out as me giving her the silent treatment. I've repented and worked on my communication and things are so much better now. I credit that talk as a large part in the change.

    I am also trying to temper the way I interact with people on here and elsewhere. This world needs peacemakers.

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    • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      One of the challenges of this talk is that it forces introspection, especially when my natural instinct is to think of all the others to whom it applies.
      True. This passage really got me:

      At this point you may be thinking that this message would really help someone you know. Perhaps you are hoping that it will help him or her to be nicer to you. I hope it will! But I also hope that you will look deeply into your heart to see if there are shards of pride or jealousy that prevent you from becoming a peacemaker.
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
      - Goatnapper'96

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      • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        I've been thinking a lot about President Nelson's April 2023 "Peacemakers Needed" conference address. As evidenced by this 113 page thread, President Nelson has been a transformational church leader. But I think this talk was genuinely one of the most prophetic of his presidency. Prophetic as in acting as a mouthpiece of God speaking to his children and telling them to stop fighting and be nice.



        One of the challenges of this talk is that it forces introspection, especially when my natural instinct is to think of all the others to whom it applies. Back in the October 2020 General Conference Elder Oaks gave a talk titled "Love Your Enemies." In the talk he vaguely referenced the BLM riots of Summer 2020, but also spoke of peacefully accepting election results. Around the time I was EQ instructor and asked to use this talk for a lesson in late December, just prior to Jan 6. After teaching the lesson I got a handful of texts from a few of our more conservative members referencing the BLM riots. A couple weeks later after the Capitol riots I had a couple conversations with more liberal members where they mentioned the talk. I was struck by how in all of these interactions the condemnation was pointed outward. As if they were using a conference talk as a mote x-ray for their brother when the entire point is that it should be a self-administered beam scanner.

        This has been on my mind a lot lately and inspired me to try be better, particularly as the election season rolls around. My tendency is to seek after anything that is the opposite of 'virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy.' Especially when it makes someone I don't like look bad. It's not easy and I'm sure I'll fail at times, especially when I'm really good at saying mean things. Like if it were a gift of the spirit I'd have it. But I'm trying to listen carefully and redefine my standard of communication.
        Thanks for this post.

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          • I love that talk. And a good reminder how we should treat each other--especially when we are hunkered down in the bunker with our computer.

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            • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
              I've been thinking a lot about President Nelson's April 2023 "Peacemakers Needed" conference address. As evidenced by this 113 page thread, President Nelson has been a transformational church leader. But I think this talk was genuinely one of the most prophetic of his presidency. Prophetic as in acting as a mouthpiece of God speaking to his children and telling them to stop fighting and be nice.



              One of the challenges of this talk is that it forces introspection, especially when my natural instinct is to think of all the others to whom it applies. Back in the October 2020 General Conference Elder Oaks gave a talk titled "Love Your Enemies." In the talk he vaguely referenced the BLM riots of Summer 2020, but also spoke of peacefully accepting election results. Around the time I was EQ instructor and asked to use this talk for a lesson in late December, just prior to Jan 6. After teaching the lesson I got a handful of texts from a few of our more conservative members referencing the BLM riots. A couple weeks later after the Capitol riots I had a couple conversations with more liberal members where they mentioned the talk. I was struck by how in all of these interactions the condemnation was pointed outward. As if they were using a conference talk as a mote x-ray for their brother when the entire point is that it should be a self-administered beam scanner.

              This has been on my mind a lot lately and inspired me to try be better, particularly as the election season rolls around. My tendency is to seek after anything that is the opposite of 'virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy.' Especially when it makes someone I don't like look bad. It's not easy and I'm sure I'll fail at times, especially when I'm really good at saying mean things. Like if it were a gift of the spirit I'd have it. But I'm trying to listen carefully and redefine my standard of communication.
              I think it is messages like this where the LDS church can and does a really good job. I have absolutely no belief in the truth claims the religion. I also have serious disagreements with many of the policies and doctrines of the LDS church, but anyone would benefit by considering the advice given in that message.
              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
              --Kendrick Lamar

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              • Single dudes over 40 can now be called on missions. Also, single women over 40 can be called to serve in visitors’ centers, historic sites, employment centers and "additional roles in area and mission offices."


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                • no thanks

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                  • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                    no thanks
                    I didn't think you were single

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                    • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                      no thanks
                      No kidding, especially if I'm a 19 year old companion to one.
                      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                      - SeattleUte

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                      • I may do it. I had planned to retire and hang out with Clack in the Philippines. going on a mission might be a better option.

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                        • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                          No kidding, especially if I'm a 19 year old companion to one.
                          I can tell you didn't read the tweet nor the linked newsroom announcement that the tweet referenced.

                          Similar to most single senior sisters, single senior elders will be devoted to their individual area of responsibility and will not serve in a companionship.

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                          • That’s nice. I always thought it was odd that they allowed single women to go on missions when they are older, but not single men.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post

                              I didn't think you were single
                              I'm not. But you've got to consider all possibilities.

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                              • Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post

                                I can tell you didn't read the tweet nor the linked newsroom announcement that the tweet referenced.
                                No I didn't. It was just a joke anyways.
                                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                                - SeattleUte

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