Most Annoying Ex-Mormons

[clackamascoug]

I almost self-immolated today on the facebook Mormon Hub group. A guy was talking about how he's a flight attendant and how he came across a passenger sitting quietly with their light on reading a quad, complete with a pass-along card bookmark, and how he couldn't but think that the man was so pretentious. He later added that this was a 'trigger' for him. I've been unhappy with the generally negative piss-and-moan tone of the place of the last few months, and I volcanoed. Someone told me to contribute more substantially to the conversation rather than calling it "circlejerking," so I left the group rather than pressing home the issue.

I've got all kinds of problems with the church right now, but I had a really great time teaching the lesson about Mark 2 on Sunday in Gospel Doctrine. I felt like the point I made about members always acting like everything is perfect only quickly to declare, "I'm not perfect/OH, WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM" is comical given how quickly Mormons will judge someone for doing something like drinking alcohol or coffee, watching a rated-R movie, or even cussing, when those people likely don't consider what they're doing sinful nor even know that it is in Mormon eyes. I had overheard people in the lobby before church telling a story about how they "knew that my co-workers wouldn't even ask me if I'd seen 50 Shades of Grey because they know who, what, and how I am." I got a great discussion going about whether or not ward members are "that person" who has to make a spectacle of themselves whenever someone asks them if they want coffee or to go out for a drink after work. I asked the class, what's more important, the constant reminder of "I'm Mormon" leading to no invites, rather than a polite decline of the drink, but still going out to dinner with people and never mentioning it. Some folks would've thought I was speaking heresy, but the bishop was nodding approval the whole time.

Great stuff and real discussion rather than the canned, "We know what we're supposed to do" glossing over that we get from the regular discussions we have. I'm in a place where a lot pisses me off, but I still like going because I've feel like I'm moving past (not completely yet) the grousing about every little thing that happens stage into one wherein I only share my thoughts, on occasion, about things that really get me worked up.

I also got asked to teach EQ on Sunday, lesson 4, Joy in Troubled Times from the Benson manual. Rather than using the lesson, which wasn't all that interesting save the WWII stuff. I explained that Benson was a product of his times, that he only ever knew the Cold War mindset as an adult, and that he'd been dead for 2 decades and the world has gone on without him. I then read an article talking about NYC's no-murder streak (the longest in its history) and then read several passages from Steven Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature, explaining that we live in the least-violent time ever in the history of mankind. Many people didn't want to believe what I was saying, with one old-timer (it was combined EQ and HP) saying that I was going against modern revelation. That was when I dropped Packer's Oct 2011 talk to the youth saying that the world wasn't ending tomorrow and that they shouldn't despair.

If I could just get a calling teaching SS and EQ every Sunday, I think I'd remain active without many complaints until my dying day. I'm done with most LDS facebook groups. I think CUF's got a good mixture here and we don't get overly aggressive in our complaints (with exceptions, of course). This is the best LDS community on the web, in my opinion.

Thank you. I work hard at keeping my end up.

[wuapinmon]

I almost self-immolated today on the facebook Mormon Hub group. A guy was talking about how he's a flight attendant and how he came across a passenger sitting quietly with their light on reading a quad, complete with a pass-along card bookmark, and how he couldn't but think that the man was so pretentious. He later added that this was a 'trigger' for him. I've been unhappy with the generally negative piss-and-moan tone of the place of the last few months, and I volcanoed. Someone told me to contribute more substantially to the conversation rather than calling it "circlejerking," so I left the group rather than pressing home the issue.

I've got all kinds of problems with the church right now, but I had a really great time teaching the lesson about Mark 2 on Sunday in Gospel Doctrine. I felt like the point I made about members always acting like everything is perfect only quickly to declare, "I'm not perfect/OH, WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM" is comical given how quickly Mormons will judge someone for doing something like drinking alcohol or coffee, watching a rated-R movie, or even cussing, when those people likely don't consider what they're doing sinful nor even know that it is in Mormon eyes. I had overheard people in the lobby before church telling a story about how they "knew that my co-workers wouldn't even ask me if I'd seen 50 Shades of Grey because they know who, what, and how I am." I got a great discussion going about whether or not ward members are "that person" who has to make a spectacle of themselves whenever someone asks them if they want coffee or to go out for a drink after work. I asked the class, what's more important, the constant reminder of "I'm Mormon" leading to no invites, rather than a polite decline of the drink, but still going out to dinner with people and never mentioning it. Some folks would've thought I was speaking heresy, but the bishop was nodding approval the whole time.

Great stuff and real discussion rather than the canned, "We know what we're supposed to do" glossing over that we get from the regular discussions we have. I'm in a place where a lot pisses me off, but I still like going because I've feel like I'm moving past (not completely yet) the grousing about every little thing that happens stage into one wherein I only share my thoughts, on occasion, about things that really get me worked up.

I also got asked to teach EQ on Sunday, lesson 4, Joy in Troubled Times from the Benson manual. Rather than using the lesson, which wasn't all that interesting save the WWII stuff. I explained that Benson was a product of his times, that he only ever knew the Cold War mindset as an adult, and that he'd been dead for 2 decades and the world has gone on without him. I then read an article talking about NYC's no-murder streak (the longest in its history) and then read several passages from Steven Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature, explaining that we live in the least-violent time ever in the history of mankind. Many people didn't want to believe what I was saying, with one old-timer (it was combined EQ and HP) saying that I was going against modern revelation. That was when I dropped Packer's Oct 2011 talk to the youth saying that the world wasn't ending tomorrow and that they shouldn't despair.

If I could just get a calling teaching SS and EQ every Sunday, I think I'd remain active without many complaints until my dying day. I'm done with most LDS facebook groups. I think CUF's got a good mixture here and we don't get overly aggressive in our complaints (with exceptions, of course). This is the best LDS community on the web, in my opinion.

[LVAllen]

In sum, if you have to murder someone, make sure it's an ex-mormon.

I think it's more along the lines of, if you have to murder someone, murder someone I don't know. No acquaintance with the deceased = no obligation to attend the funeral.

[jay santos]

And have you read the apocryphal books of Adam and Eve? That's some Tim Burton stuff right there.

No, but I've seen the movie.

[Commando]

In that case, I put both Adam (whiny/weak) and Eve (needy) in my top 5 most annoying Mo's.

And have you read the apocryphal books of Adam and Eve? That's some Tim Burton stuff right there.

[jay santos]

I think Lucifer deserves a mention here. "And give all the glorrrrry to me! (Give it to me!)" What an ass.

In that case, I put both Adam (whiny/weak) and Eve (needy) in my top 5 most annoying Mo's.

[HBCoug]

I think Lucifer deserves a mention here. "And give all the glorrrrry to me! (Give it to me!)" What an ass.

[Northwestcoug]

Boo, Brother Jake is hilarious.

Bro. Jake hit on a very clever idea, sort of a Stephen Colbert for Mormonism. His first few videos are great. Unfortunately, his schtick has gotten old, much quicker than Colbert's.

[MarkGrace]

Murder is annoying

1. Murder leads to death
2. Death necessitates funerals
3. Funerals encourage attendance
4. Attendance mandates participation
5. Participation begets boredom and sadness
6. boredom and sadness are annoying

murder=annoying

In sum, if you have to murder someone, make sure it's an ex-mormon.

[TripletDaddy]

Murder is annoying

1. Murder leads to death
2. Death necessitates funerals
3. Funerals encourage attendance
4. Attendance mandates participation
5. Participation begets boredom and sadness
6. boredom and sadness are annoying

murder=annoying

[Dwight Schr-ute]

It's called the Holy Ghost, Julianne.

I bet she got a text from dad just before the black face OITNB Halloween moment.

[MarkGrace]

In the past, Hough has revealed that her disciplinarian dad allowed her to move to LA when she was 18, stating one condition: “Don’t do Maxim.” Later, he wouldn’t stay at her home while she cohabited with the 38-year-old Seacrest.

“He’ll look at [my] Instagram and say, ‘I really do wish you wouldn’t post words like sh-t and b–ch. We don’t need to hear that, Julianne!’ ”

To this day, Bruce sends random messages reminding her of her moral responsibilities.

“Dad has this thing where he texts: ‘Are you in the right place, doing the right thing, at the right time with the right people?’ ” she says. “He has this intuition and will always text me when I’m in the wrong situation.”

Such as?

“[When] I’m dancing around and I’m clubbing and maybe I need to slow down on my drinks,” she says. “Or I’m at Coachella and I’m in the moment and I’m not thinking, ‘OK, so if I do this, what will the consequences be tomorrow?’

“Then, out of nowhere, I’ll get a text. Daddy knows!”

It's called the Holy Ghost, Julianne.

[smokymountainrain]

I thought she was a Mark Grace Mormon.

You're probably right. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

[Pelado]

Julianne Hough

I thought she was a Mark Grace Mormon.

[smokymountainrain]

Julianne Hough