183rd Annual General Conference Predictions

[Bo Diddley]

So you're saying a married woman who has sex loses her chastity/virtue in a (physical) sense too? Interesting. Never thought of it that way.

So you and others just use chastity/virtue as a synonym for virginity? Mormons are weird.

Nice try.

[CardiacCoug]

Sounded like he said that chastity/virtue is the most dear and precious thing, not the most important thing. He did specifically mention that procreative powers are not just recreation.

OK I get it that he was quoting Moroni 9:9 which is about how raped women lose their chastity and virtue. Didn't realize he was quoting that verse but in a way that makes more sense.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Sounded like he said that chastity/virtue is the most dear and precious thing, not the most important thing. He did specifically mention that procreative powers are not just recreation.

So Bendar has only had sex in an attempt to conceive? I bet his 40's and 50's must really be fun

[Pelado]

So Bendar has only had sex in an attempt to conceive? I bet his 40's and 50's must really be fun

Not just for conception. He's also done the dirty to be obedient - 1 Cor 11:11.

[Pelado]

OK I get it that he was quoting Moroni 9:9 which is about how raped women lose their chastity and virtue. Didn't realize he was quoting that verse but in a way that makes more sense.

Nor did I. I wasn't watching but pulled it up online and half-watched to try to catch the context of your paraphrasing.

[San Juan Sun]

Perhaps I show my bias, but I'm trying to ask his thoughtfully: does it bother you that you view Church leaders so cynically?

Just a question. Flame away.

[Pelado]

Perhaps I show my bias, but I'm trying to ask his thoughtfully: does it bother you that you view Church leaders so cynically?

Just a question. Flame away.

To whom is this directed?

[woot]

In the physical sense, absolutely it is taken from them. Which is why it is such a huge event to overcome. The physical virtue is a symbol of what they hold precious and dear. Mormon did not mean that the rape victims were not virtuous.

A lot of women have their hymen broken before they have sex. The whole concept is a non-starter.

[Bo Diddley]

A lot of women have their hymen broken before they have sex. The whole concept is a non-starter.

So you're equating having their hymen broken to what occurs physically during rape?

Go tell the first rape victim you find that it's a non-starter, and then get back to me. TIA

[CardiacCoug]

Perhaps I show my bias, but I'm trying to ask his thoughtfully: does it bother you that you view Church leaders so cynically?

Just a question. Flame away.

I guess this is directed at me and I don't view Church leaders cynically. I am only cynical about some of what I view as quirks of Mormonism and one of them is this overemphasis on sex and sexual sin, in my opinion.

I just have a hard time understanding with all the bad things people do how people would rank premarital sex or gay people having sex anywhere remotely high up on the list of sins.

To me it seems much more immoral for wealthy people to spend a lot of money on a car and give very little to the poor, for example.

[woot]

So you're equating having their hymen broken to what occurs physically during rape?

Go tell the first rape victim you find that it's a non-starter, and then get back to me. TIA

Not even close. Try again.

[San Juan Sun]

To whom is this directed?

No one in particular. I just read the whole thread in one sitting. I don't worship GAs, but I tend to think that they are pretty good people in general. I don't know, I'm not one to talk I guess.

[CardiacCoug]

No one in particular. I just read the whole thread in one sitting. I don't worship GAs, but I tend to think that they are pretty good people in general. I don't know, I'm not one to talk I guess.

Who said Elder Bednar was a bad person?

[SoonerCoug]

Tolstoy also believed that one should only have sex if in an attempt to make a baby.

My mission president frequently taught Russian members of the Church that this view was not embraced by the Church so that they wouldn't become too crazy.

[myboynoah]

Tolstoy also believed that one should only have sex if in an attempt to make a baby.

My mission president frequently taught Russian members of the Church that this view was not embraced by the Church so that they wouldn't become too crazy.

What was said? Above someone quotes it as "sex is not just for recreation." That's far from "sex is only for procreation."