New LDS Church Website: Mormons and Gays

[Moliere]

Totally revamped website was recently launched. It even now falls under the lds.org domain, which I guess now makes it impossible for anyone to say it's not an official church site.

https://mormonandgay.lds.org/

I haven't been through much of it, but I liked this video:

[I.J. Reilly]

http://www.brookings.edu/events/2015...rmons-religion

This event is happening in about 45 mins and can be watched via webcast. Apparently Brookings feels that the recent legislation in Utah regarding LGBT/religious protections is at least of enough note to do a forum on the topic.

[Topper]

Ha, I'll admit I thought the same thing when I saw all the Repubs congratulating each other. These are the same people that shot down several other attempts at similar laws....at least 5-6 times over the past decade. It's interesting to see the Church control the politics in Utah and it's nice to see them meddle a bit in a progressive way.

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If following the crowd is progressive I get your drift.

[Moliere]

This new law is awesome. So cool that the prophets have now been inspired to be nice to gay people after for years they were inspired to be mean to gay people. The Church is true!!

Ha, I'll admit I thought the same thing when I saw all the Repubs congratulating each other. These are the same people that shot down several other attempts at similar laws....at least 5-6 times over the past decade. It's interesting to see the Church control the politics in Utah and it's nice to see them meddle a bit in a progressive way.

[CardiacCoug]

This new law is awesome. So cool that the prophets have now been inspired to be nice to gay people after for years they were inspired to be mean to gay people. The Church is true!!

[Eddie]

Does this mean that Nevada prostitutes can be forced to serve clientsof either sex even if the prostitutes are hetero? How about dogs or horses or multiple clients at once?

Apparently if they have no more than 15 employees, then they're good.

Or no more than 4 apartments.

[Northwestcoug]

Does this mean that Nevada prostitutes can be forced to serve clientsof either sex even if the prostitutes are hetero? How about dogs or horses or multiple clients at once?

That escalated quickly.

[Pelado]

Does this mean that Nevada prostitutes can be forced to serve clientsof either sex even if the prostitutes are hetero? How about dogs or horses or multiple clients at once?

Always most concerned about how the law personally affects you.

[cowboy]

Does this mean that Nevada prostitutes can be forced to serve clientsof either sex even if the prostitutes are hetero? How about dogs or horses or multiple clients at once?

[Paperback Writer]

I think I have heard this story before. The missionaries dusted off their feet on the owner and the establishment and some time later the place burned down. Amiright?

No, I lacked the faith necessary to compel the vengence of the almighty. My only recourse was to reason with the proprietor and get his agreement to let the missionaries once again use his laundromat on the condition that they not argue with any JW's or actively proselyte in his place of business. The Elders had been doing their laundry at a member's house after getting kicked out of the laundromat (the only one in town), but that option was taken away after a mssion rule change (another story). I was sent to mediate with the laundromat proprietor. He really didn't like Mormons but relented if we abided by his reasonable terms.

[smokymountainrain]

That's crazy talk. A couple of women holding hands could be mother and daughter, sisters, cousins, whatever. Just because they're holding hands doesn't mean they are lesbians. There should probably be kissing involved. And since women are known to kiss each other (on the cheek, at least) it probably needs to be some pretty passionate kissing. Just to make sure they really are lesbians before they are refused service.

Tongue. Whether or not they use tongue should be the deciding factor.

[Paperback Writer]

When two women come into my place of business together, I usually ask that they passionately kiss each other first to see if I should deny them service.

I trust that if one has the powers of discernment to distinguish between gay wedding cakes and striaght ones, then sorting out the Lesbians from the straight folks would be clear-cut.

[Sullyute]

how about a laundromat refusing service to a couple of missionaries because the owner doesn't like Mormons and knows his patrons may not either.

I think I have heard this story before. The missionaries dusted off their feet on the owner and the establishment and some time later the place burned down. Amiright?

[Pelado]

That's crazy talk. A couple of women holding hands could be mother and daughter, sisters, cousins, whatever. Just because they're holding hands doesn't mean they are lesbians. There should probably be kissing involved. And since women are known to kiss each other (on the cheek, at least) it probably needs to be some pretty passionate kissing. Just to make sure they really are lesbians before they are refused service.

When two women come into my place of business together, I usually ask that they passionately kiss each other first to see if I should deny them service.

[Eddie]

What if there are not plenty of other businesses around to welcome gays? What if, instead of a small bakery, it's a small restaurant? Should they be allowed to refuse service to a couple of woman who are holding hands? And maybe there isn't much public outcry from other restaurant patrons when the couple is turned away so there is no fear of public rejection. Laws are needed because there may not be public outcry, or not enough of it, for people to do the "right thing" because the "right thing" can be subjective in the minds of many. If that line of thinking doesn't work, how about a laundromat refusing service to a couple of missionaries because the owner doesn't like Mormons and knows his patrons may not either.

That's crazy talk. A couple of women holding hands could be mother and daughter, sisters, cousins, whatever. Just because they're holding hands doesn't mean they are lesbians. There should probably be kissing involved. And since women are known to kiss each other (on the cheek, at least) it probably needs to be some pretty passionate kissing. Just to make sure they really are lesbians before they are refused service.