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    I like Elder Hales including food at the beginning of his list of excesses.

    Good talk.

  • #2
    Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    I like Elder Hales including food at the beginning of his list of excesses.

    Good talk.
    What?! You see evidence of that in Mormon culture?
    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
    ― W.H. Auden


    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
      What?! You see evidence of that in Mormon culture?
      shhh, I'm trying to listen and pass the funeral potato's please.
      Last edited by tooblue; 04-04-2009, 09:43 AM.

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      • #4
        It could also refer to binging and purging. It's a talk that reaches out to everyone.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
          I like Elder Hales including food at the beginning of his list of excesses.

          Good talk.
          I noticed that too. Great opening to a great talk. I hope my wife watches that one first.

          EDIT: About the money thing, not the addiction to food thing.
          Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
            I like Elder Hales including food at the beginning of his list of excesses.

            Good talk.
            I'm just glad he didn't include message boards.
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            "Outlined against a blue, gray
            October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
            Grantland Rice, 1924

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
              I'm just glad he didn't include message boards.
              In the next talk we learned not to post during Church, though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                In the next talk we learned not to post during Church, though.
                Does priesthood session count as church?
                Get confident, stupid
                -landpoke

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                  Does priesthood session count as church?
                  Nope.
                  sigpic
                  "Outlined against a blue, gray
                  October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
                  Grantland Rice, 1924

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                  • #10
                    There's nothing worse than addiction to eating excessively and the wrong kinds of food. Consequences include amputation, blindness, kidney disfunction, heart failure, and a loveless life. I'd rather be hooked on cigarettes.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                      I like Elder Hales including food at the beginning of his list of excesses.

                      Good talk.
                      I believe the withdrawals of stopping eating are fatal and have never met someone who could quit eating without the withdrawals. By that definition, we are all addicted to food. What did he mean by addicted to food? Addiction is probably one of the words most overused and most bastardized in our society right now. Right up there with bigot.

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                      • #12
                        [quote=KillerDog;61333Addiction is probably one of the words most overused and most bastardized in our society right now. [/quote]

                        Agreed.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                          I believe the withdrawals of stopping eating are fatal and have never met someone who could quit eating without the withdrawals. By that definition, we are all addicted to food. What did he mean by addicted to food? Addiction is probably one of the words most overused and most bastardized in our society right now. Right up there with bigot.
                          When you have a behavior that you cannot control and it is causing serious problems for you in your life (work or family) you are addicted. As someone who has worked closely with drug addicts, alcoholics, and pornography addicts, all of them LDS, I think you are completely wrong. We need to pay more attention to the problem of addiction, not less. It is tragic and rampant, and is one of the greatest Satanic threats to free agency in existence right now. To reduce addiction to the equivalent of a PC word like "bigot" is a big mistkae, IMO.
                          Last edited by LA Ute; 04-06-2009, 08:27 AM.
                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden


                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                            When you have a behavior that you cannot control and it is causing serious problems for you in your life (work or family) you are addicted. As someone who has worked closely with drug addicts, alcoholics, and pornography addicts, all of them LDS, I think you are completely wrong. We need to pay more attention to the problem, not less. It is one of the greatest Satanic threats to free agency right now. To reduce it to PC words like bigot and fascist is a big mistkae, IMO.
                            Your definition of addiction is not the same as mine and I believe yours is a perversion of the term. That said, I agree that people should learn to control their actions and passions, especiall when those passions are interfering with work or family. I just don't think that is the definition of addiction. I think addiction involves a chemical dependence on a substance and withdrawal symptoms are present when attempting to quit. Thus, you can be addicted to caffeine and not have it damage your family or job but it is still an addiction. You can have a passion for shopping that is damaging your family but isn't an addiction.

                            We just seem to disagree on the definition of the term. That's why I thought the idea of a food addiction funny. A harmful passion for food is a serious problem and should be dealt with, probably with professional help, but it is not an addiction by my definition.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                              A harmful passion for food is a serious problem and should be dealt with, probably with professional help, but it is not an addiction by my definition.
                              As a guy who just helped a brother get through his addiction to drugs and alcohol and is dealing with his own addiction to food, I would humbly suggest that you can take your 6'whatever" skinny ass definition and shove it. Understand that both the church (as part of their addiction recovery program) and mental health professionals that I have talked with are not ambiguous on this point.
                              Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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