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I accidentally ran across this and took a little over 3 minutes to watch. It gave me a lift:
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“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
I watched this and didn't really feel anything but confused. Here are some of my thoughts.
I'm glad it gave you a lift, but it makes me wonder what had you so down? Maybe this is too personal a question.
They talk a lot about guilt, but it occurs to me that the most guilty-feeling people that I know are often the most religious. I have found this to be especially true in the LDS community.
Seems like it is an endless cycle of causing you guilt then telling you how to have that guilt relieved.
Or are they referring to the general hardships of life (ie health/financial/family problems?) I couldn't really tell what they were getting at. It is true, though, that religion can be quite the crutch to help those who struggle with dealing with the burdens of reality.
I watched this and didn't really feel anything but confused. Here are some of my thoughts.
I'm glad it gave you a lift, but it makes me wonder what had you so down? Maybe this is too personal a question.
They talk a lot about guilt, but it occurs to me that the most guilty-feeling people that I know are often the most religious. I have found this to be especially true in the LDS community.
Seems like it is an endless cycle of causing you guilt then telling you how to have that guilt relieved.
Or are they referring to the general hardships of life (ie health/financial/family problems?) I couldn't really tell what they were getting at. It is true, though, that religion can be quite the crutch to help those who struggle with dealing with the burdens of reality.
I saw as it in the broader scope and not really about guilt (although that was mentioned). I like our view of the Atonment. BTW, I am not down at all today, but I know a lot of people who are, and I simply found the collection of messages inspiring.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
I watched this and didn't really feel anything but confused. Here are some of my thoughts.
I'm glad it gave you a lift, but it makes me wonder what had you so down? Maybe this is too personal a question.
They talk a lot about guilt, but it occurs to me that the most guilty-feeling people that I know are often the most religious. I have found this to be especially true in the LDS community.
Seems like it is an endless cycle of causing you guilt then telling you how to have that guilt relieved.
Or are they referring to the general hardships of life (ie health/financial/family problems?) I couldn't really tell what they were getting at. It is true, though, that religion can be quite the crutch to help those who struggle with dealing with the burdens of reality.
This comment isn't about the video, but to your comment about the cycle of creating guilt and relieving it. That's where I was going with a comment a while back about bishops and their role. Bishop/"the church" are involved with helping a lot of people in relieving their guilt and feeling better about themselves but it seems that might only be because bishops/the church first condemns and declares those people guilty, thereby creating the problem.
I don't completely believe, but I think there is some truth there.
ie a bishop helps a teenage kid repent and frees him from feeling guilty about his porn and masturbation habit, but what if the kid was never made to feel guilty about it in the first place and what if he doesn't need to repent, at least in terms of how the church would define repentance?
*That the Atonement can help us when we are burdened with grief
*Our natures can be changed because of the Atonement it can increase our power to carry burdens
*God sees us eternally, as the glorious beings we can become
*"Without me ye can do nothing."
And so forth.
I don't that video as being about guilt. You guys are meandering off into the weeds, IMO.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Now I feel guilty for undermining your thread, ergo, your video made me feel guilty.
Good. Serves you right.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Thanks, LA Ute. I found the video inspiring -- even felt the Spirit. Elder Uchtdorf's testimony was especially touching to me. It was a pure invitation to come unto Christ, and in so inviting, you could feel that Elder Uchtdorf had done what he was inviting us to do, and that he wanted us to have what he had. Anything that man says with his German accent is dynamite. It's almost like Pavlov's dog at this point -- I except to be moved and inspired when I hear that man begin to talk.
The reaction to the clip by others is also interesting.
Nice video. It was good to hear Elder Wirthlin's voice. I found this great video from a talk he gave a few years ago.
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That talk is one of my all-time Elder Wirthlin favorites.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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