Historicity of The Book of Mormon

[Non Sequitur]

Everybody needs someone or something to follow, duh!

Nobody says the Church doesn't contain leaders. The world is full of leaders, but most leaders don't claim to speak for God.

[Jacob]

It has already happened. All we lack is a formal revelation.

The Bible qua historical document has been thoroughly discredited, in every conceivable way, and, qua historical document, is a dead letter to any objecive person Christian or non-Christian alike. Rational people don't even consider this a subject worthy of discussion. You might as well be making a case for historicity of the Hobbit.

Fixed.

[SeattleUte]

Fixed.

There is a great deal in the Bible that is accepted historical evidence by scholars, as well as a great deal that is demonstrably fanciful. The Bible itself is also a genuine artifact of ancient history; if there was any doubt about this it was settled by the discoveries of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and discoveries at Nag Hammadi and other places.

The Bible also has some of our civilization's greatest and most infulential literature. The Book of Mormon itself (which any reputable scholar regards as a 19th century artifact) is actually wholly derivative of the Bible.

I'm sorry. To compare the Bible to the Book of Mormon in any way in terms of historicity evinces spectacular ignorance.

[BlueHair]

Here's a quote from the Neal A. Maxwell Institute at BYU:

We propose that the Book of Mormon is the account of a small group of people who lived on the American continent, interacting to some degree with the indigenous population but relatively isolated from the general historical events occurring elsewhere in the Americas.

Read the Book of Mormon and see if a small group of people fits. Mormon 1:7, which according to the chapter heading takes place in 322-326 AD, says this:

The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous almost, as it were the sand of the sea.

That sounds like a pretty vast population, not a small group of people. Where are these cities? Where are these buildings? It was only 1700 years ago. Some kind of evidence should still exist.

[LogMafia]

Instead of posting why the historical evidences against the book of Mormon are wrong, can someone post some historical evidences for the book of mormon?

for example:

What people are thought to be the Lamanites?
Where is a good geographical location for the BoM
Is there any reformed Egyptian found anywhere?
Any ancient money or tools or food that is talked about in the book?

Anything concrete at all? My wife says that God doesn't want any evidence to be found, but I doubt that God would go out of his way to hide evidence, and then have the church fund expeditions to try to find it.

[Maximus]

Here's a quote from the Neal A. Maxwell Institute at BYU:



Read the Book of Mormon and see if a small group of people fits. Mormon 1:7, which according to the chapter heading takes place in 322-326 AD, says this:

That sounds like a pretty vast population, not a small group of people. Where are these cities? Where are these buildings? It was only 1700 years ago. Some kind of evidence should still exist.

How do you know mormon 1:7 is not in fact referring to a citythat is comprised mostly or partly of people not connected with the BofM?

[Indy Coug]

Instead of posting why the historical evidences against the book of Mormon are wrong, can someone post some historical evidences for the book of mormon?

for example:

What people are thought to be the Lamanites?
Where is a good geographical location for the BoM
Is there any reformed Egyptian found anywhere?
Any ancient money or tools or food that is talked about in the book?

Anything concrete at all? My wife says that God doesn't want any evidence to be found, but I doubt that God would go out of his way to hide evidence, and then have the church fund expeditions to try to find it.

Where did Meso-Americans come up with the idea of building pyramids?

[Jarid in Cedar]

Where did Meso-Americans come up with the idea of building pyramids?

How did Watson and Tesla come up with the lightbulb at the same time?

[Indy Coug]

How did Watson and Tesla come up with the lightbulb at the same time?

They benefited from the cumulative efforts of others, whose work was common knowledge?

[LogMafia]

How do you know mormon 1:7 is not in fact referring to a citythat is comprised mostly or partly of people not connected with the BofM?

That seems like a bit of a stretch, where does the Book of Mormon talk about indigenous people? It does specify meeting other groups of people so you would think that it would say something, at least about this large city of Non-Jewish people.

There are just so many problems with the Book of Mormon.

Have you ever thought why the Jews in the BoM don't follow the law of Moses?

[Solon]

Interesting quotes, Son of P.

I invite everyone here to pen down his/her thoughts in this thread in a My Book of Mormon Journal.

http://www.confettibooks.com/?page=s...936a5cca851a12

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Oh wait. There's a price: $103.50

[Indy Coug]

That seems like a bit of a stretch, where does the Book of Mormon talk about indigenous people? It does specify meeting other groups of people so you would think that it would say something, at least about this large city of Non-Jewish people.

There are just so many problems with the Book of Mormon.

Have you ever thought why the Jews in the BoM don't follow the law of Moses?

How does Jacob desribe "wars" and preach against polygamy when they had barely arrived in the Promised Land and didn't have enough people to have either wars or polygamy?

[filsdepac]

Where did Meso-Americans come up with the idea of building pyramids?

Are pyramids a unique idea? I think of that as being no different than building a boat, which I doubt originated in any single location.

[fusnik]

Where did Meso-Americans come up with the idea of building pyramids?

Lehi brought with him the knowledge and technology to construct pyramids?

[LogMafia]

Where did Meso-Americans come up with the idea of building pyramids?

Since the structure is nothing like the Egyptian pyramids I would guess that they came up with the idea on their own.

And if these structures were built by people from Israel why don't they have any Hebrew or even Egyptian writing instead of a completely different language?

The Idea that Pre-classical Mayans were the Nephites and Lamanites doesn't carry any water.

They had a different social structure, different writing, different language, different foods, different tools etc.