when did U2 start to suck?

[TripletDaddy]

"Your honor, his retort proves I'm right. I rest my case."

"Counsel, and how does his retort prove you're right?"

"I said I rest my case. I win!"

p.s.

well what do you know, I guess I did say that. I do spend a lot of time with my kids.

I spend relatively little time working, however.

Your obfuscation is awesome. It is proving the suckiness of U2.

It is apparent that you likely attended one of the shows on this current tour.

[Levin]

this is a pretty lame retort, but if anything, it is an admission that I am right.

At this point, you are essentially admitting to U2's hypocrisy, but shifting the focus to potential hypocrisies in my life.

Victory is mine!

ps I never said spending time with children is important.

"Your honor, his retort proves I'm right. I rest my case."

"Counsel, and how does his retort prove you're right?"

"I said I rest my case. I win!"

p.s.

I pride myself on spending a good deal of time with my kids. It has always been something that is very important to me and probably one of the few things I got right in my life. But I think that you can never re-commit yourself too much to your children.

[TripletDaddy]

Actually, here's a better one: DDD says spending time with his kids is important, and he prides himself in spending time with them. And yet he has spent a cajillion hours on CB, CG, CUF, . . . . HYPOCRITE!

No, it isn't much better.

[TripletDaddy]

DDD says spending time with children is important, and yet he (allegedly) has a job and goes to work, taking time away from spending time with his children. HYPOCRITE!

Oh, and he probably sends his kids to preschool and/or public elementary school. Taking the kids away from time with parents! HYPOCRITE!

this is a pretty lame retort, but if anything, it is an admission that I am right.

At this point, you are essentially admitting to U2's hypocrisy, but shifting the focus to potential hypocrisies in my life.

Victory is mine!

ps I never said spending time with children is important.

[Levin]

Actually, here's a better one: DDD says spending time with his kids is important, and he prides himself in spending time with them. And yet he has spent a cajillion hours on CB, CG, CUF, . . . . HYPOCRITE!

[Levin]

DDD says spending time with children is important, and yet he (allegedly) has a job and goes to work, taking time away from spending time with his children. HYPOCRITE!

Oh, and he probably sends his kids to preschool and/or public elementary school. Taking the kids away from time with parents! HYPOCRITE!

[TripletDaddy]

So you hate brands? WHere do you buy your clothing?

on the contrary. I never said I hate brands.

I am fine with the brand "U2." I think I said the other day that it is a powerful brand.

But make no mistake....U2 is not about the music anymore. This thread is about the suckage of the band. The die-hard fans like jaysantos don't see the suckage because, well...they are die-hard. A good fan goes down with the ship.

U2 has adopted the Rolling Stones business model. U2 uses music to promote the brand. Any music will do. As such, they will continue to churn out mediocre or forgettable albums for 20 more years, probably. Anything to keep the brand moving.

Other things that help the brand:

1. Staying in the media: since the music won't keep Malum Vox in the spotlight, might as well adopt some high-pro causes, hang with world leaders, etc.
2. Mass marketing: check....merch agreements with brands like Apple and Target are a good start.
3. Gimmicks: custom iPods, expensive t shirts, crazy elaborate stages, etc...

I actually got a big kick out of RobinFinderson's post about meeting U2. Here we have a band that is allegedly championing the dismissal of billions of dollars in debt and what are they doing? They are soliciting bids from a world-renown architect to build a tricked out custom recording studio. Or maybe it was to build the most expensive stage set-up of all time. Kind of hard to take seriously anything those guys do these days.

dut's post about U2 doing a Spiderman musical was the icing on the cake.

[creekster]

Perfect. This is exactly what the band is hoping from its fanbase. As long as they continue to not see the hypocrisy, U2 The Brand will thrive.

I wonder if U2 can create an even more expensive stage for the next tour? And then take that multi-million dollar stage to famine-impoverished countries and perform for a discounted $80 per ticket.

So you hate brands? WHere do you buy your clothing?

[TripletDaddy]

I just don't get the hypocritical claims, like noting the concert is $150.

Perfect. This is exactly what the band is hoping from its fanbase. As long as they continue to not see the hypocrisy, U2 The Brand will thrive.

I wonder if U2 can create an even more expensive stage for the next tour? And then take that multi-million dollar stage to famine-impoverished countries and perform for a discounted $80 per ticket.

[jay santos]

countries borrow money because they are running out of it.

why should other nations forgive the debt?

I'm not saying Bono's politics are completely defendable. I just don't get the hypocritical claims, like noting the concert is $150.

[TripletDaddy]

I want china to forgive US debt.....any way we can get classified as third world?

Perhaps Malum Vox can forgive the debt owed to him by Clear Channel for this current tour. That would be a nice gesture.

[creekster]

I want china to forgive US debt.....any way we can get classified as third world?

charge less for concerts, apparetnly.

[Flystripper]

countries borrow money because they are running out of it.

why should other nations forgive the debt?

I want china to forgive US debt.....any way we can get classified as third world?

[il Padrino Ute]

countries borrow money because they are running out of it.

why should other nations forgive the debt?

Exactly.

Perhaps Bono should buy some of that debt and do the forgiving himself.

[TripletDaddy]

I don't understand DDD's take on this. Tickets are priced by supply and demand. Your stance on third world debt has absolutely no influence on ticket prices.

countries borrow money because they are running out of it.

why should other nations forgive the debt?