Lance Armstrong is a dope

[Eddie]

As expected, the USPS has sued Lance and his affiliates for over $100MM, claiming that his drug use violated their sponsorship agreement and seeking the statutorily authorized treble damages, tied to the $40MM the USPS paid over the term of its sponsorship. It wouldn't bother me a bit if Armstrong had to forfeit every nickel he received from cycling. But I don't see why the USPS is much of an injured party here. Presumably it benefited greatly from the Armstrong brand during the term of the contract. Now, years later, whatever the USPS gained isn't lost by the disclosure of drug use (or at least I don't think it is). This action seems purely punitive, rather than an attempt to recover damages.

The people I'd like to see get large slices of the Armstrong pie are those whose careers he ruined by lying and bringing groundless and malicious lawsuits.

The thing that bothers me the most about this is the fact that the USPS gave him any money at all and even sponsored a team.

Seriously - this is the government agency that is bleeding money at every pore and they have $40 million+ to throw into cycling?

I kind of have a hard time with the USPS doing any advertising, to be honest. Provide a service to those who want/need it. But you aren't a business and don't need to compete for business. Like most government agencies, if you aren't wanted/needed, then go away!

[RC Vikings]

Interesting tweet from Armstrong today. This is after Danilo Di Luca tested positive for EPO.

Lance Armstrong @lancearmstrong 7h
Knowing I have 0 cred on the doping issue - I still can't help but think, "really Di Luca? Are you that fucking stupid??"
Details

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Given the time span that gets covered, this documentary could be pretty interesting.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

And this new book. "Wheelmen: Lance Armstrong, The Tour de France and The Greatest Sports Conspiracy Ever."

Pretty good excerpt from the Wall Street Journal.

[creekster]

Turns out a woman scorned may have done some of the damage. Hey, if it makes you happy . . . .

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-tu...154956047.html

[RC Vikings]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-tu...030647886.html

Nobody may have been hurt more financially by Armstrong than Lemond. The Trek break from Lemond to support Armstrong cost him a lot of money.

[creekster]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/armstro...8917--spt.html

Armstrong and UCI complicit. Armstrong shows off his nice side in the article.

[Eddie]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/armstro...8917--spt.html

Armstrong and UCI complicit. Armstrong shows off his nice side in the article.

That there's funny. Armstrong has no sympathy for someone that he thinks threw him under the bus? I'm curious what Armstrong believes should happen to people who throw other people under buses?

I'm also curious as to if his proposed response differs if the person being thrown under the bus actually did what they are accused of versus being an innocent bus victim.

[RC Vikings]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/...es-oath_323657

Armstrong throws Bruyneel, Carmichael and Weisel underneath the bus. Bruyneel will never work in the industry again, Carmichaels coaching gig will take a hit and Weisel has got to be hurt financially some how.

[smokymountainrain]

Has anybody has read or started to read this Armstrong biography?

http://www.amazon.com/Cycle-Lies-Fal...owViewpoints=1

Early reviews look solid.

[Moliere]

Has anybody has read or started to read this Armstrong biography?

http://www.amazon.com/Cycle-Lies-Fal...owViewpoints=1

Early reviews look solid.

I haven't but would love too. I did recently watch the documentary titled The Armstrong Lie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1638364/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Good piece that goes through the timeline pretty well.

[creekster]

Hincapie's book comes out in May. I think it should be a good read. I don't know why, but for some reason he seems to have more integrity than most of these guys, even though he was cheating in the same way as the rest. They all seem to justify what they did by claiming everyone was doing it (which might be true).

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/2...apie-pens.html

[pelagius]

Hincapie's book comes out in May. I think it should be a good read. I don't know why, but for some reason he seems to have more integrity than most of these guys, even though he was cheating in the same way as the rest. They all seem to justify what they did by claiming everyone was doing it (which might be true).

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/2...apie-pens.html

I think he comes across that way; there is a kind of integrity to the role he played on the teams he was on. His professional role has some dimension of sacrifice which which makes him generally more likeable than the others; a kind of 'halo effect'.

[fusnik]

Such a classy human.

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/...nd-anna-hansen

[TripletDaddy]

i love going back and reading this thread. It is obvious that most of you are embarrassed for your arguments made in support of lance and against his accusers. The first 8 or 9 pages in particular are pretty funny. you all know who are you are. it is ok to feel shame for being so obviously wrong.