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Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostIt's a sign the church is getting away from correlation. Moliere should be uncorking the champagne."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by nikuman View PostThe answers are BY and JFiS respectively.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Originally posted by nikuman View PostThe answers are BY and JFiS respectively."In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
"And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
"Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute
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Originally posted by nikuman View PostBased on what I just said, I'm pretty sure we're never going to be in the same place.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Originally posted by nikuman View PostBased on what I just said, I'm pretty sure we're never going to be in the same place.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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I hope that LAU understands that he is not obligated to defend every statement or position of the church. They won't excommunicate him if he doesn't."The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
"I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."
-Rick Majerus
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Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View PostI hope that LAU understands that he is not obligated to defend every statement or position of the church. They won't excommunicate him if he doesn't.I'm like LeBron James.
-mpfunk
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Originally posted by smokymountainrain View PostI feel like sometimes he and Indy in particular are simply trying to bring some balance to the board. On certain topics, this board is incredibly one sided and that gets really boring, especially if I agree with that side. I, for one, appreciate the effort."It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View PostI hope that LAU understands that he is not obligated to defend every statement or position of the church. They won't excommunicate him if he doesn't.
Seriously, this very fine board has a...tendency to become an echo chamber in which certain positions, although eminently debatable, are treated as ironclad truths that any serious person accepts. I can't resist responding to that kind of discourse.
Originally posted by FMCoug View PostThat's fine and balance is great. But when you have otherwise reasonable people (on either side) spinning like crazy it gets old.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Originally posted by LA Ute View PostCome on. You all know you need me here.
Seriously, this very fine board has a...tendency to become an echo chamber in which certain positions, although eminently debatable, are treated as ironclad truths that any serious person accepts. ."The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
"I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."
-Rick Majerus
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Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View PostBut isn't this all that the church is (any church for that matter)? Isn't that basically what happens every Sunday? People reverberating the same ideas and thoughts over and over treating them as ironclad truths that any person with an ounce of common sense should understand and believe? Do you offer up the opposing viewpoint in that locale?
That said, in church when people do get a little too group-thinky for my tastes, I do try to nudge the conversation towards a broader way of thinking. You'd be surprised.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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