Immigration & Prop 8 from an Apostle

[UtahDan]

Will that make them shorter?

I knew that we could bring you along on this if we just found the right "in."

[Indy Coug]

I knew that we could bring you along on this if we just found the right "in."

Didn't realize I was against it, nor that this was an item of concern.

[Indy Coug]

My daughters hope that some day women will be allowed to pray in General Conference.

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...tml?id=6391697

[TripletDaddy]

My daughters hope that some day women will be allowed to pray in General Conference.

I wish they would give more talks in GC. More time for food breaks.

[scottie]

Didn't that happen last general conference?

Negative...

http://lds.org/ensign/2010/11/summar...rence?lang=eng

Saturday Morning, October 2, 2010, General Session
Invocation: Elder Octaviano Tenorio. Benediction: Elder Eduardo Gavarret.

Saturday Afternoon, October 2, 2010, General Session
Invocation: Elder Claudio D. Zivic. Benediction: Elder Jorge F. Zeballos.

Sunday Morning, October 3, 2010, General Session
Invocation: Elder Gérald Caussé. Benediction: Elder Carlos A. Godoy.

Sunday Afternoon, October 3, 2010, General Session
Invocation: Elder Lawrence E. Corbridge. Benediction: Bishop H. David Burton.

[Moliere]

That and uni-sex bathrooms. I remember a lot of people in my neighborhood being really worried about that.

I totally understand this one. I'd hate for men's bathrooms to have the same lines as the women's. The church may have been on the wrong side of the ERA but they were on the right side with this issue.

[Flystripper]

we are definitely seeing more unisex bathrooms

The bathroom in my home is unisex. I just don't open the door when my wife is in there.

[LA Ute]

I was in law school during the ERA fight. There were many statements made to the effect that without the ERA's passage, the cause of women's rights would suffer greatly. Has that happened? (I am mostly joking but would be interested in perspectives on the question.)

[TripletDaddy]

I was in law school during the ERA fight. There were many statements made to the effect that without the ERA's passage, the cause of women's rights would suffer greatly. Has that happened? (I am mostly joking but would be interested in perspectives on the question.)

Why not provide some quotes and then we can discuss them.

[UtahDan]

Didn't realize I was against it, nor that this was an item of concern.

I am happy to have raised your awareness, even self awareness.

[Solon]

Why not provide some quotes and then we can discuss them.

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vg...____&hideNav=1

http://lds.org/ensign/1977/03/the-eq...dment?lang=eng

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vg...004d82620a____

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...75,1322451&dq=

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...041,3557893&dq

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/doc...CISOSHOW=14145

http://lds.org/ensign/1980/03/news-o...hurch?lang=eng (scroll down to Church Court Action Clarified, towards the bottom of the page)

[TripletDaddy]

http://lds.org/ensign/1977/03/the-eq...dment?lang=eng

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vg...004d82620a____

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...75,1322451&dq=

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...041,3557893&dq

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/doc...CISOSHOW=14145

Interesting stuff you have linked here.

The LDS lnks didnt seem to contain the paraphrased quote that LA Ute was citing.

The Sonia Johnson stuff didn't either but I remember reading about her previously.

[LA Ute]

Why not provide some quotes and then we can discuss them.

Sorry, I am too lazy. I was just going from hazy memory.

[Solon]

Interesting stuff you have linked here.

The LDS lnks didnt seem to contain the paraphrased quote that LA Ute was citing.

The Sonia Johnson stuff didn't either but I remember reading about her previously.

Maybe LA was thinking of the 1976 statement. I added it in to my original post, but here's the part that might qualify:

“There have been injustices to women before the law and in society generally. These we deplore.
“There are additional rights to which women are entitled.
“However, we firmly believe that the Equal Rights Amendment is not the answer.
“While the motives of its supporters may be praiseworthy, ERA as a blanket attempt to help women could indeed bring them far more restraints and repressions. We fear it will even stifle many God-given feminine instincts.
“It would strike at the family, humankind’s basic institution. ERA would bring ambiguity and possibly invite extensive litigation.
“Passage of ERA, some legal authorities contend, could nullify many accumulated benefits to women in present statutes.
“We recognize men and women as equally important before the Lord, but with differences biologically, emotionally, and in other ways.
“ERA, we believe, does not recognize these differences. There are better means for giving women, and men, the rights they deserve.”
http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vg...____&hideNav=1

FWIW

[TripletDaddy]

Maybe LA was thinking of the 1976 statement. I added it in to my original post, but here's the part that might qualify:


FWIW

Your quotes are from the Church's POV. I think LA Ute was taking the opposite tact. He was basically saying, "those that were pro ERA and disagreed with the Church's position made X claims...the ERA did not pass...did X claims ever come true?"

I noticed that LA Ute was "too lazy" to produce any such quotes. You seemed to find a bunch of tangentially related quotes within minutes. Maybe those other quotes don't exist?