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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostWhat is your word/phrase label for people of the second type I described above?Last edited by Commando; 05-11-2019, 08:12 AM."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by CommandoNow see, that's a great example of a racist person whose racism is described a bit more diplomatically.Originally posted by swampfrog View PostSo, just to make this clear, people who advocate for the preservation of their culture, community, society, etc. are all racists?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/m...cience-africa/
Over the past few decades, genetic research has revealed two deep truths about people. The first is that all humans are closely related—more closely related than all chimps, even though there are many more humans around today. Everyone has the same collection of genes, but with the exception of identical twins, everyone has slightly different versions of some of them. Studies of this genetic diversity have allowed scientists to reconstruct a kind of family tree of human populations. That has revealed the second deep truth: In a very real sense, all people alive today are Africans.
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostSo, just to make this clear, people who advocate for the preservation of their culture, community, society, etc. are all racists?
You're misinvesting nuance where it doesn't fit or work.
Here is the most popular "white nationalist" website online, and this is their motto
We are a community of racial realists and idealists. We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Seriously go check out the people who self-identify with that term. Those folks are the ones who coined that phrase.Last edited by frank ryan; 05-11-2019, 09:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostLeave it to the Dems to remove motivation to buy a Tesla...
https://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...509-story.html
Why do the Dems hate the environment so much?"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Even if the terms ‘white nationalist’ and ‘Judeo-Christian values’ ever had non-racist connotations (which I don’t believe), they are very loaded now. Why even co-opt a term like that in this political climate?
This is not a hill to die on. If you are in favor of a pluralistic society, then there’s your term."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Swampfrog, in addition to stormfront.org, also check out wikipedia's little entry on White Nationalism. It's really not complex, that terms is used by those who self-identify as racists but want to soften it a bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostThis is about the time that people start to realize just how much of their gas price is pure gasoline and how much is taxes. The economics of an electric car go even further down when their owners have to start paying their fair share of road maintenance."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostPeople who call themselves white nationalists are. White is not a culture or a community. Irish is a culture, Danish is a culture, etc. I wouldn't use that term and expect a sensible person to not assume you mean racist.
You're misinvesting nuance where it doesn't fit or work.
Here is the most popular "white nationalist" website online, and this is their motto
We are a community of racial realists and idealists. We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Seriously go check out the people who self-identify with that term. Those folks are the ones who coined that phrase.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSwampfrog, in addition to stormfront.org, also check out wikipedia's little entry on White Nationalism. It's really not complex, that terms is used by those who self-identify as racists but want to soften it a bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
Just believe him when he presents himself as a racist.
What he posted and what Richard Spencer says isn’t really any different. Read again what he said it’s shockingly awful his definition of what is acceptable.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSwampfrog, in addition to stormfront.org, also check out wikipedia's little entry on White Nationalism. It's really not complex, that terms is used by those who self-identify as racists but want to soften it a bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
I would still appreciate you providing the answer to the question I asked, remove the label "White Nationalist(2)" from the description and just evaluate it as a position. Do you agree with Commando in that the description of the 2nd position is a racist position? Assume the people who hold this position do not self-identify as White Nationalists.
If it is not a racist position, does it have a name?
I see a common tactic to take people that advocate for the preservation of their community, religion, values, etc. labeled as something along the lines of "White Nationalist" so their position can be effectively dismissed. I am trying to discover exactly at which point advocating for the preservation of commonalities within a community cross into racism.
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Originally posted by fusnik View PostRead again what he said it’s shockingly awful his definition of what is acceptable.
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostSo, just to make this clear, people who advocate for the preservation of their culture, community, society, etc. are all racists?
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Originally posted by beefytee View PostWhen that preservation relies on limiting others access to culture, community, and society, chances are yes. Maybe not racist, but at least prejudice and likely xenophobic which is just as bad as racist.
A lot of black folks worry about disappearing...when you have the chance to build a stable black family, the idea is you've got to do it.There's something else - despite liberalism, I do take some undeserved pride in being partnered with a black woman. And to make it even more perverse, I take pride in being partnered with a very dark skin black woman.And by the way, just so you understand, I'm not for in-marriage - if that's what you call it - because I'm prejudiced against everyone but Jews. (Actually, there's a lot of Jews who think I am especially prejudiced against Jews - you should read my mail). This has nothing to do with outsiders; this is only about self-preservation. We've been around for a long time, and my suspicion is that there's a reason for this. I'm not diving into theology here, but I have this feeling that peoples don't survive the way the Jews have survived for nothing.
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