At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

[myboynoah]

No, I said nothing about IP. A lab's testing procedure could incorporate someone else's test that was purchased from the Korean company, for example. Why would it be viewed as stealing the IP if they purchased it?

It sounds like the Drumpf administration did fast-track this...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/us-coronavirus-tests-invs/index.html

Of course, it does sound like the CDC screwed up... What do you expect for government work?



And some folks what turn it all over to the government with socialized medicine.

Again, thank you for making my point.

Special Report: How Korea trounced U.S. in race to test people for coronavirus

[Omaha 680]

Is Italy turning the corner? I hope so; they have been through hell.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

[Uncle Ted]

Again, thank you for making my point.

Special Report: How Korea trounced U.S. in race to test people for coronavirus

Yep, the CDC f*cked up and should be gutted... (You know: "You're fired!") Again, speaks volumes about trusting government workers to do anything that private industry can clearly do better. Drumpf saw that the CDC couldn't do their "one job" and quickly fixed it:

Bombarded by criticism amid a re-election campaign, Trump vowed on Friday to ramp up production of test kits in partnership with private companies and to make the diagnostic tests more widely available at hospitals and in-store parking lots. This week, the FDA said more than 35 universities, hospitals and lab companies had begun running their own tests, under the agency’s revised policy.

Thanks for making my point with your reference.

[myboynoah]

Is Italy turning the corner? I hope so; they have been through hell.

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https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/

I hope.

[SeattleUte]

New York’s mortality rate is now below 1 percent, and certainly they’ve identified only a tiny percentage fo the infections.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[UVACoug]

Does anyone think China's numbers are credible? They've reported less than 50 new cases a day since March 7th:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

If they are credible, we should do what they did. It will be painful, but far less devastating than dragging this out for month and months.

[myboynoah]

Does anyone think China's numbers are credible? They've reported less than 50 new cases a day since March 7th:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

If they are credible, we should do what they did. It will be painful, but far less devastating than dragging this out for month and months.

Who knows, but likely pretty credible in general.

I think we're past the point of doing what China did. It was localized in Wuhan and Hubei Province. They cut those places off from the rest of the country. The U.S. is past that point; maybe was never there since the infection came to three places and spread.

People in Wuhan are still confined to their homes.

[UVACoug]

Who knows, but likely pretty credible in general.

I think we're past the point of doing what China did. It was localized in Wuhan and Hubei Province. They cut those places off from the rest of the country. The U.S. is past that point; maybe was never there since the infection came to three places and spread.

People in Wuhan are still confined to their homes.

I'm not sure that is completely accurate (it may be, but I can't find any data on where infections were located in China before the lockdown). A majority of the confirmed cases in the US right now are in New York (mostly in NYC). 95% of people tested in Utah have tested negative (and tests are generally available only to those that are symptomatic), which may suggest that the virus has not been spread widely yet in the state. It would be interesting to know what the rate of positive tests are in other states. Are we really in a much worse position now than China was in before the lockdown?

[myboynoah]

I'm not sure that is completely accurate (it may be, but I can't find any data on where infections were located in China before the lockdown). A majority of the confirmed cases in the US right now are in New York (mostly in NYC). 95% of people tested in Utah have tested negative (and tests are generally available only to those that are symptomatic), which may suggest that the virus has not been spread widely yet in the state. It would be interesting to know what the rate of positive tests are in other states. Are we really in a much worse position now than China was in before the lockdown?

I just meant in terms of localization. It started in Wuhan and Hubei, so it was easier to contain there. With a wider dispersal pattern in the U.S. it seems more difficult to do what China did, unless we enact a national lock down and close state and city borders. I guess we could also shut down all air travel.

A similar thing happened in Korea with a super spreader in Daegu. It became localized there and easier to contain. But Korea took a much less draconian approach.

[Omaha 680]

So the Democrats blocked the stimulus package in the Senate Sunday night. I haven't read in detail, but seems like the major sticking points are sunset provisions for the mandatory paid leave, and more transparency on where which corporations receive the bailout loans. If I have that correct, seems like a no-brainer to me. Give the transparency (which always should have been a part of the bill) in exchange for sunsets on the paid leave and unemployment benefits. This is not a time to be making gigantic, permanent expansions to entitlement spending or placing permanent mandates on businesses.

[UVACoug]

I just meant in terms of localization. It started in Wuhan and Hubei, so it was easier to contain there. With a wider dispersal pattern in the U.S. it seems more difficult to do what China did, unless we enact a national lock down and close state and city borders. I guess we could also shut down all air travel.

A similar thing happened in Korea with a super spreader in Daegu. It became localized there and easier to contain. But Korea took a much less draconian approach.

This suggests that the virus had spread throughout China before the lockdown:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mid=tw-nytimes

In my opinion, it doesn't look that different than what is currently happening in the U.S., with a significant proportion of cases located in NYC/NJ, medium proportions in a few other localities, and smaller proportions spread throughout the rest of the country. Not sure if a Chinese style of lockdown would even be possible in the United States, given our culture and constitutional system, but if it was really as effective as the numbers look (I'm still quite skeptical), it should be seriously considered.

[myboynoah]

This suggests that the virus had spread throughout China before the lockdown:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mid=tw-nytimes

In my opinion, it doesn't look that different than what is currently happening in the U.S., with a significant proportion of cases located in NYC/NJ, medium proportions in a few other localities, and smaller proportions spread throughout the rest of the country. Not sure if a Chinese style of lockdown would even be possible in the United States, given our culture and constitutional system, but if it was really as effective as the numbers look (I'm still quite skeptical), it should be seriously considered.

I can't open that link, but yes, COVID spread to parts of China and the rest of the world from Hubei. But Hubei is the epicenter has over 83% of Chinese cases; no other province has more than 2%. NY/NJ has about 50% of U.S. cases, Washington and California have over 5% each. Many jurisdiction are considering lockdowns, and I think I just heard that 11 states have implemented stay-at-home orders.

[myboynoah]

India’s largest cities, home to more than 65 million, go into lockdown mode

[cowboy]

Not that it makes much difference with our population density, but Wyoming is locked down. All non-essential businesses are closed, especially bars and restaurants. My transplant-surgeon BIL expects 80% of the population to be exposed, and thinks our best hope is that flattening the curve will give us time to develop better treatments and eventually a vaccine. He is particularly concerned because all of his patients are high-risk, which has required him to become particularly knowledgeable. It was fascinating and a little scary talking with him.

[BlueK]

So Senator Paul just tested positive, but we find out now that during the time he was waiting for results he was still hanging out at the Senate gym? That seems pretty irresponsible especially considering it's not good if his peers in the US Senate all start getting sick. For that matter, this late in the game why in the heck is the Senate gym still open?

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...through-senate