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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View PostI’ll throw this out there just for fun. I would say that John Stewart’s penchant for representing himself as the only true news source vs just a guy telling jokes depending on the situation did more damage to journalism than Dan Rather ever did. It further blurred the line between news and editorial entertainment and that line didn’t need blurring. Well done satire can be very compelling, but it isn’t news."What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone
"What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View PostI’ll throw this out there just for fun. I would say that John Stewart’s penchant for representing himself as the only true news source vs just a guy telling jokes depending on the situation did more damage to journalism than Dan Rather ever did. It further blurred the line between news and editorial entertainment and that line didn’t need blurring. Well done satire can be very compelling, but it isn’t news.
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Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View PostI’ll throw this out there just for fun. I would say that John Stewart’s penchant for representing himself as the only true news source vs just a guy telling jokes depending on the situation did more damage to journalism than Dan Rather ever did. It further blurred the line between news and editorial entertainment and that line didn’t need blurring. Well done satire can be very compelling, but it isn’t news.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostOh brother.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by old_gregg View Posti actually think there is some truth to this. the ascendance of acerbic, sarcastic, condescending media that's generally less likely to apply the same cynicism to the lib ideology has something to do with the alienation of some folks with conservative inclinations.
Babylon Bee is kind of playing the same role for the other side.
Anyone who views any of this stuff as journalism is dumb."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by old_gregg View Posti actually think there is some truth to this. the ascendance of acerbic, sarcastic, condescending media that's generally less likely to apply the same cynicism to the lib ideology has something to do with the alienation of some folks with conservative inclinations.
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Originally posted by old_gregg View Postno it's not. social media has just made people so stupid and lazy (or probably just exposed boomers' stupidity and laziness) that they expect spoonfed impartiality (impossible and does not exist) instead of feeling an obligation to critically consume fact-based media.
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Originally posted by USUC View PostThere is amazing journalism on the local level. There is great journalism in long form publications like the Atlantic. There is great journalism outside of politics. National political journalism has major problems, particularly the 24 hour news journalists and within the legacy publications. The problem isn't journalism just isn't good. The problem is a lack of viewpoint diversity, framing, and selective standards of critical investigation.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostIndeed. I actually really enjoyed Stewart in the early aughts. He was very funny and while he gave it to the right more often, he wasn't afraid to skewer the left. Above all he was in it for the jokes. But as the Bush administration wore on he got more condescending, more glib, more dripping with sarcasm at the expense of real insight and humor. He also spawned a whole industry of copycats who were never very funny; they just say something someone on the right said that they disagree with, make a funny face and wait for the audience clapter (I'm looking at you Samantha Bee).Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Commando View Postlol I see Trump has his head firmly wrapped around the basic tenets of campaign finance laws."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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