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Originally posted by Commando View PostI guess a senator that votes 90+% with the president's agenda doesn't strike me as particularly anti-Trump. Maybe you disagree somehow- I don't care.
I saw a trump video clip the other day where trump said that hitler was a horrible person. I guess I need to become a hitler fan now to maintain my bonafides."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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He's doing it.
Trump says Postal Service needs money for mail-in voting, but he’ll keep blocking funding
President Trump says the U.S. Postal Service is incapable of facilitating mail-in voting because it cannot access the emergency funding he is blocking, and made clear that requests for additional aid were nonstarters in coronavirus relief negotiations.
Trump, who has been railing against mail-in balloting for months, said the cash-strapped agency’s enlarged role in the November election would perpetuate “one of the greatest frauds in history.” Speaking Wednesday at his daily pandemic news briefing, Trump said he would not approve $25 billion in emergency funding for the Postal Service, or $3.5 billion in supplemental funding for election resources, citing prohibitively high costs.
“They don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting. So therefore, they can’t do it, I guess,” Trump said. “Are they going to do it even if they don’t have the money?”Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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This postal service stuff is scary. Trump/GOP sabotaging the system to interfere with the vote is something Putin or Maduro would do. People should be a lot more alarmed.Last edited by frank ryan; 08-13-2020, 06:49 AM.
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Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
Moron still doesn't see that absentee and mail in is essentially the same thing.
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I find it odd that given our level of technology these days that mail-in voting is still a thing. I can do pretty much everything online. I recently moved my entire retirement account from one bank to another and did it all online without showing ID to anybody or physically signing anything. I've setup bank accounts for my kids and none of them have ever been inside a bank branch. I cast my proxy votes for investments I own. why can't we get an even more advanced method of voting by doing it online? Seems like it would be at least as secure as mail-in voting.
And how come the USPS can deliever 20 pieces of junk mail to my mailbox (and everyone else on my street) every week with no issue but they are going to struggle to handle delivering one ballot over the course of several weeks. The whole thing sounds odd and it seems like the left is using this as a way to get more funding for the USPS, which funding likely isn't necessary to handle mail-in voting."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostI find it odd that given our level of technology these days that mail-in voting is still a thing. I can do pretty much everything online. I recently moved my entire retirement account from one bank to another and did it all online without showing ID to anybody or physically signing anything. I've setup bank accounts for my kids and none of them have ever been inside a bank branch. I cast my proxy votes for investments I own. why can't we get an even more advanced method of voting by doing it online? Seems like it would be at least as secure as mail-in voting.
And how come the USPS can deliever 20 pieces of junk mail to my mailbox (and everyone else on my street) every week with no issue but they are going to struggle to handle delivering one ballot over the course of several weeks. The whole thing sounds odd and it seems like the left is using this as a way to get more funding for the USPS, which funding likely isn't necessary to handle mail-in voting.
I'm concerned about Trump's rhetoric regarding mail-in voting, but a lot of this sounds like fear mongering more than anything. Are states not paying their own postage costs for mailing out ballots?
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostI find it odd that given our level of technology these days that mail-in voting is still a thing. I can do pretty much everything online. I recently moved my entire retirement account from one bank to another and did it all online without showing ID to anybody or physically signing anything. I've setup bank accounts for my kids and none of them have ever been inside a bank branch. I cast my proxy votes for investments I own. why can't we get an even more advanced method of voting by doing it online? Seems like it would be at least as secure as mail-in voting.
Also having a paper trail is a huge preventer of fraud on a large scale. It is relatively easy to manipulate 1 and 0's that are exposed to the internet somehow. Much harder to add/remove/change a large number of paper ballots.
I really like the optical scanned votes (mail-in or otherwise). Straight forward, easy to understand and verify by hand, and counting is super quick and accurate.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostThis postal service stuff is scary. Trump/GOP sabotaging the system to interfere with the vote is something Putin or Maduro would do. People should be a lot more alarmed."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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I'm still waiting on a new debit card the bank mailed out to me a while back. They called me to ask if I'd moved, because it was returned to them with "moved" written on the envelope in sharpie. They're going to drop it in a new envelope and try again.
The USPS does an OK job - but I can't help but believe it's an element of government that could do better with privatization. Even if the government still pays for most of it, but contracts out the work.
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostI find it odd that given our level of technology these days that mail-in voting is still a thing. I can do pretty much everything online. I recently moved my entire retirement account from one bank to another and did it all online without showing ID to anybody or physically signing anything. I've setup bank accounts for my kids and none of them have ever been inside a bank branch. I cast my proxy votes for investments I own. why can't we get an even more advanced method of voting by doing it online? Seems like it would be at least as secure as mail-in voting.
And how come the USPS can deliever 20 pieces of junk mail to my mailbox (and everyone else on my street) every week with no issue but they are going to struggle to handle delivering one ballot over the course of several weeks. The whole thing sounds odd and it seems like the left is using this as a way to get more funding for the USPS, which funding likely isn't necessary to handle mail-in voting."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostGood call. Only by switching party affiliations and voting against Republican issues can we know that Mitt is genuinely anti-trump. Until then he should be despised by both republicans and democrats.
I saw a trump video clip the other day where trump said that hitler was a horrible person. I guess I need to become a hitler fan now to maintain my bonafides."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostThe USPS loses my sh*t all the time or delivers it to my neighbors. I get my neighbors important mail as well. Once I got their passports. Yes, the USPS is scary stuff and shouldn't be trusted with anything important.
Also USPS is pretty great. Thanks for your anecdote.Last edited by frank ryan; 08-13-2020, 04:36 PM.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostI get a lot of mail and rarely lose anything. I buy coins, and the USPS has been stellar."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostI even have Informed Delivery, which tells me what letters I should get. I get pictures of all my mail. I would say I don't get one letter a quarter or so but one of my neighbors letters instead. The only good thing about the USPS around here is that I live in an old part of town where we don't have mailboxes. They bring all our mail up to our door and stick it into a mail slot, which is nice.
One time I saw that I was getting a letter from an attorney, but it never showed up. Three weeks later our neighbor brought it over. They delivered it to the wrong house."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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