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    Trump, Biden, 3rd party or not at all?
    29
    Trump
    17.24%
    5
    Biden
    62.07%
    18
    3rd Party
    13.79%
    4
    I won't vote at all
    6.90%
    2

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  • #2
    Biden. I might even put a Biden sign in my yard.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • #3
      The libertarian or not at all (with all the Bernie Bros).

      Biden may forget to show up to the Dem convention. If so, and the Dems pick Tulsi instead then I vote for her. Joe Rogan is right about Biden.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
        The libertarian or not at all (with all the Bernie Bros).

        Biden may forget to show up to the Dem convention. If so, and the Dems pick Tulsi instead then I vote for her. Joe Rogen is right about Biden.


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        Tulsi is done. You can find her on Russia Today and Fox News.

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        • #5
          The only certainty is that I won't vote for Trump. How I vote will depend on Biden's running mate who, if he wins, will likely succeed him as President.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
            The only certainty is that I won't vote for Trump. How I vote will depend on Biden's running mate who, if he wins, will likely succeed him as President.
            The tea leaves are all saying Kamala Harris will be Uncle Joe's running mate... He must like the smell of her hair.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • #7
              I'm conservative fiscally, liberal on social issues. I voted for Hillary because of Trump's ridiculousness generally but specifically for his anti-trade perspectives. I would rate Trump 1/10 on what he says and 6.5/10 on what he actually does. Since I really only care about what he does and not what he says, I don't think he's actually been that bad of a president. I don't know much about Biden, but the Democratic party (Sanders, Warren, Pelosi, AOC, etc) seems to have become way way way too liberal on fiscal issues and anti-Trump just for the sake of being anti-Trump for me to even consider voting Dem right now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                I'm conservative fiscally, liberal on social issues. I voted for Hillary because of Trump's ridiculousness generally but specifically for his anti-trade perspectives. I would rate Trump 1/10 on what he says and 6.5/10 on what he actually does. Since I really only care about what he does and not what he says, I don't think he's actually been that bad of a president. I don't know much about Biden, but the Democratic party (Sanders, Warren, Pelosi, AOC, etc) seems to have become way way way too liberal on fiscal issues and anti-Trump just for the sake of being anti-Trump for me to even consider voting Dem right now.
                trump has pretty much done what he said on trade
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  If [...] Dems pick Tulsi instead then I vote for her.
                  You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                    trump has pretty much done what he said on trade
                    He's certainly tried to, but he is too incompetent to fully enact whatever vision he has had. He has disrupted trade commerce and spooked trading partners to be, but even NAFTA 2.0 isn't much of a deviation from the original. He's still terrible on trade, but luckily is too dumb to get his way fully.

                    I live in Utah, so whoever I vote for in the presidential race is inconsequential. I'll probably vote Libertarian. But if I was in a swing state, I would be tempted to vote for Trump. With all the drama and general nonsense he is about, really the only thing I fully endorse is the originilist/textualist judiciary strategy being implemented.

                    That being said, Trump is a truly despicable person. When he finally goes away, the state of politics will instantly be improved. I'm pretty pissed the democrats have so thoroughly dropped the ball in their response to him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                      The only certainty is that I won't vote for Trump. How I vote will depend on Biden's running mate who, if he wins, will likely succeed him as President.
                      This is close to where I am. I liked Biden a lot more when he could complete a sentence.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by USUC View Post
                        ...With all the drama and general nonsense he is about, really the only thing I fully endorse is the originailist/textualist judiciary strategy being implemented.
                        ...
                        I understand, and have sympathy for, this argument. But, by a show of hands, how many think Trump cares at all about originalism, strict construction, or any other specific judicial strategy? He has neither the intellectual capacity nor the interest to care about such things. He cares a lot about re-election, and he was smart enough early on to see that following the recommendations of the Federalist Society put him in good stead with his base and Fox News, as well as reasonable conservatives. But Trump also cares, a lot, about loyalty, hurting his enemies, setting himself up for future wealth, and revenge. If he's re-elected, I expect those latter concerns will drive more of his appointments and decision-making generally. Imagine Roy Cohn, with scores to settle and a nest to feather, as our Chief Executive.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                          I understand, and have sympathy for, this argument. But, by a show of hands, how many think Trump cares at all about originalism, strict construction, or any other specific judicial strategy? He has neither the intellectual capacity nor the interest to care about such things. He cares a lot about re-election, and he was smart enough early on to see that following the recommendations of the Federalist Society put him in good stead with his base and Fox News, as well as reasonable conservatives. But Trump also cares, a lot, about loyalty, hurting his enemies, setting himself up for future wealth, and revenge. If he's re-elected, I expect those latter concerns will drive more of his appointments and decision-making generally. Imagine Roy Cohn, with scores to settle and a nest to feather, as our Chief Executive.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                            I understand, and have sympathy for, this argument. But, by a show of hands, how many think Trump cares at all about originalism, strict construction, or any other specific judicial strategy? He has neither the intellectual capacity nor the interest to care about such things. He cares a lot about re-election, and he was smart enough early on to see that following the recommendations of the Federalist Society put him in good stead with his base and Fox News, as well as reasonable conservatives. But Trump also cares, a lot, about loyalty, hurting his enemies, setting himself up for future wealth, and revenge. If he's re-elected, I expect those latter concerns will drive more of his appointments and decision-making generally. Imagine Roy Cohn, with scores to settle and a nest to feather, as our Chief Executive.
                            Oh, he most certainly doesn't care about, let a lone believe in, originalism. But he has thus far been good. And I assume he would most certainly be better than democratic appointees. But your point is valid.

                            When Trump is out of power, the overreaction from Democrats will be just as painful as what we are seeing from Trump (albeit without the trolling component). I won't be too worried if Trump loses but the GOP keeps control of the Senate. But if Dems sweep congress as well, I would prefer enough originalist judicial insurance against their most outrageous policies. Maybe the last 4 years has already provided enough insurance. But its a worry of mine. I want a reckoning of Trumpism to happen. And it will. But I don't want that reckoning to be with AOC having power.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                              I understand, and have sympathy for, this argument. But, by a show of hands, how many think Trump cares at all about originalism, strict construction, or any other specific judicial strategy? He has neither the intellectual capacity nor the interest to care about such things. He cares a lot about re-election, and he was smart enough early on to see that following the recommendations of the Federalist Society put him in good stead with his base and Fox News, as well as reasonable conservatives. But Trump also cares, a lot, about loyalty, hurting his enemies, setting himself up for future wealth, and revenge. If he's re-elected, I expect those latter concerns will drive more of his appointments and decision-making generally. Imagine Roy Cohn, with scores to settle and a nest to feather, as our Chief Executive.
                              Exactly. Not only is he not a responsible conservative, he's just not a moral person.

                              He was an unknown for 2016. People hoped for the best when they voted for him. We know who he is now.
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