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    The first song is out! Listen here, P.M. me for a d/l link!

    http://www.spinner.com/2009/12/07/sm...song-premiere/









    check it... Billy, I guess miffed that everyone forgot that he first gave away Machina 2 when Radiohead gave away In Rainbows seven years later, does this..:

    http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/page...pumpkins-album


    "I'm happy to finally announce the plans for the new Smashing Pumpkins album.

    Recording began yesterday, September 15th, 2009 on the new record which will be entitled 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope'. The album will feature 44 songs, 4 of which are now being recorded. My desire is to release a song at a time beginning around Halloween of this year, with each new release coming shortly after until all 44 are out. Each song will be made available absolutely for free, to anyone anywhere. There will be no strings attached. Free will mean free, which means you won't have to sign up for anything, give an email address, or jump through a hoop. You will be able to go and take the song or songs as you wish, as many times as you wish.

    We will however sell highly limited edition EP's (of 4 songs each times 11), and details of how those EP's will be made available are still being worked out. Because the songs themselves will be free, the EP's will be more like collectors items for the discerning fan who will want the art itself, along with the highest possible audio quality available. The EP's will be more like mini-box sets rather than your normal cd single. We may also offer other variations for sale, say for example a digital single with a demo version of a song. The commitment that is most important is the one I'm making to you: that the music of 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope' will be available for free to everyone. All 44 songs: free for ALL.

    When the entire album is finished, it will be compiled into a deluxe box set which will also be made available for sale. Those who have bought the EP's need not worry, as the box set will not be a recompilation of the limited edition pieces.

    The story of the album is based on 'The Fool's Journey', as signified in the progress of the Tarot. It is my intention to approach this by breaking down the journey of our life here into four phases as made by these different characters; the Child, the Fool, the Skeptic, and the Mystic.

    The music of 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope' harkens back to the original psychedelic roots of The Smashing Pumpkins: atmospheric, melodic, heavy, and pretty.

    I already have 53 songs written for the record, so I am quite confident that I already have much of the material that I would need to undertake such an extensive project. I am very committed to seeing this album through to its completion and very, very excited about the prospect of delivering new Smashing Pumpkins music to you in a unique and exciting way."

    I'm pretty stoked about this.
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    I think that's because everybody forgot about Billy in general 7 years ago.

    Just teasin'...we've already been down this road, IR was not about being free. Free has been done a million times.

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    ha I think I like the format idea most of all. Nobody but fans pay for the music anyway, so why not make the actual album for sale awesome enough that only a fan could appreciate it enough to pay for the full package? Everyone else can just listen if they want at their leisure no strings attached.

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    Seems pretty ambitious, but there's still just something in me that doesn't like the idea of songs being thrown out there, or really EPs for that matter. I guess I just love the singularly crafted LP too much.

    Radiohead has put out some stuff recently, but what am I supposed to do with one song here and there? I don't get it. Thom is about to release two more songs, so that puts the recent total at 5. I guess I'll throw them together as something of an EP, but even then, it still not much to listen to.

    Guess I'll just have to wait until 2010 or '11 or whenever the hell they put out a new album to get excited.

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    I guess the reasoning behind recording this way (although I love a full LP to digest all at once, too) is to give each song the studio treatment it deserves. He has often lamented that some of his favorite or best written songs were rushed and not given the proper attention or interpretation due to the various pressures of studio or record company deadlines.

    (I would counter that some of his best songs were mostly ruined by overproduction -- see Machina/The Machines of God-- the demos were amazing, but the final product super dense, crunchy, and semi-indigestible.)

    His other point was that a band kills itself in a studio for eight months cramming, recording, grinding, and dying from lack of sunlight with no outside feedback. He mentioned that the monster recording sessions for Mellon Collie, for example, was almost enough to end the band. I think these pressures were basically Radiohead's complaint about making a full album and the tedium required for such. I honestly think that a new, hungry band is willing to make that sacrifice as many times as they need to and older "fatter" bands feel like they're past that. Ok fine, as long as we get our music.

    Anyway, the point being that, having now been freed of any and all artificial restraint (record company, financial restrictions), he can put out the album he wants to put out that cannot "fail." This album is going to be extremely similar in scope (mellon collie sessions produced 57 tracks out of which 28 were used on the album and most of the rest on the b-sides box set The Aeroplane Flies High). Billy's got the songwriting chops to top past efforts, and he's over the Metal phase and back onto that kick ass pumpkins psychedelia. I have high hopes for this album.

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    The first song is out! Listen here, P.M. me for a d/l link!

    http://www.spinner.com/2009/12/07/sm...song-premiere/

    <object width="300" height="563"><param name="movie" value= "http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/player/artistPlayer.swf"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/player/artistPlayer.swf" allowscriptaccess="always" width="300" height="563"></embed></object>
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    OK, SP heads, (both of you, pay attention)... the next chapter of Teargarden is coming June 19th in LP form. I guess the one-song-at-a-time format was really difficult to promote in places like Europe, where nobody had any idea they had new material out when they toured there. Having seen many of the new songs live, I am pretty sure this album will be the best since Adore (production values willing...)

    Behold, Oceania...

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    This album features one of my favorite SP songs to come along in a very long time:


    [YOUTUBE]XvNQSvH6Z8w[/YOUTUBE]
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    I didn't listen to the new SP record. But I saw this interview with Billy a couple weeks ago on Carson Daly's show where he was talking about the influence of The Beatles and mentioned that 80% of current music is still somwhere in the scope between Love Me Do and Helter Skelter. Not that I needed another reminder how awesome The Beatles were, but it was a cool comment.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    As long as we're talking about SP, I have to say the re-releases are some of the best I've ever seen by any band. Billy's a very meticulous curator of his own material, and just about every show, rehearsal, and demo exists somewhere on near soundboard quality. The Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness reissue comes out in December and I am blown away by what he's put together. Four extra discs of bonus material, elaborate artwork along with concept art.. You have to be shitting me. And The Aeroplane Flies High is still coming out next year!



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    Commando,

    I thought you'd get a kick out of this double-your-favorite-bands combo punch I got in for you today. In between classes, three of my students were talking about this "new" band they had discovered from "gross" 90's music. One goes, "Yeah, Weezer is the only good band from the 90's." At that point, I had to interject.

    "Hey now, while I love Weezer a lot, there are lots of other great bands from the 1990's."
    --Yeah, like who?
    --Well, for starters, Nirvana, Green Day, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Sublime, Outkast, and Smashing Pumpkins."
    --Smashing Pumpkins? What do they have like one good song?
    --(about choking on the Coke Zero I was sipping) ONE GOOD SONG?? They had several hits...(I begin singing the opening lines of "Bullet with Butterfly Wings")
    --I hate that song.
    --Well, I guess that life's a bummer when you're a hummer.
    --Huh?
    --What about Wu Tang Clan?
    --Who?
    --(thinking to myself....don't say it....don't say it....don't say it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Commando,

    I thought you'd get a kick out of this double-your-favorite-bands combo punch I got in for you today. In between classes, three of my students were talking about this "new" band they had discovered from "gross" 90's music. One goes, "Yeah, Weezer is the only good band from the 90's." At that point, I had to interject.

    "Hey now, while I love Weezer a lot, there are lots of other great bands from the 1990's."
    --Yeah, like who?
    --Well, for starters, Nirvana, Green Day, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Sublime, Outkast, and Smashing Pumpkins."
    --Smashing Pumpkins? What do they have like one good song?
    --(about choking on the Coke Zero I was sipping) ONE GOOD SONG?? They had several hits...(I begin singing the opening lines of "Bullet with Butterfly Wings")
    --I hate that song.
    --Well, I guess that life's a bummer when you're a hummer.
    --Huh?
    --What about Wu Tang Clan?
    --Who?
    --(thinking to myself....don't say it....don't say it....don't say it).
    Hilarious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Commando,

    I thought you'd get a kick out of this double-your-favorite-bands combo punch I got in for you today. In between classes, three of my students were talking about this "new" band they had discovered from "gross" 90's music. One goes, "Yeah, Weezer is the only good band from the 90's." At that point, I had to interject.

    "Hey now, while I love Weezer a lot, there are lots of other great bands from the 1990's."
    --Yeah, like who?
    --Well, for starters, Nirvana, Green Day, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Sublime, Outkast, and Smashing Pumpkins."
    --Smashing Pumpkins? What do they have like one good song?
    --(about choking on the Coke Zero I was sipping) ONE GOOD SONG?? They had several hits...(I begin singing the opening lines of "Bullet with Butterfly Wings")
    --I hate that song.
    --Well, I guess that life's a bummer when you're a hummer.
    --Huh?
    --What about Wu Tang Clan?
    --Who?
    --(thinking to myself....don't say it....don't say it....don't say it).
    lol What a bunch of nincompoops. It's almost a cliche now how much better music was in the 90s than the two decades that followed. Oh btw I'm 85% sure Rick Rubin is in the studio w the Pumpkins right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    lol What a bunch of nincompoops. It's almost a cliche now how much better music was in the 90s than the two decades that followed. Oh btw I'm 85% sure Rick Rubin is in the studio w the Pumpkins right now.
    At least Billy Corgin won't let Rubin nerf him.

    Also, did you know what the "it" was?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Commando,

    I thought you'd get a kick out of this double-your-favorite-bands combo punch I got in for you today. In between classes, three of my students were talking about this "new" band they had discovered from "gross" 90's music. One goes, "Yeah, Weezer is the only good band from the 90's." At that point, I had to interject.

    "Hey now, while I love Weezer a lot, there are lots of other great bands from the 1990's."
    --Yeah, like who?
    --Well, for starters, Nirvana, Green Day, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Sublime, Outkast, and Smashing Pumpkins."
    --Smashing Pumpkins? What do they have like one good song?
    --(about choking on the Coke Zero I was sipping) ONE GOOD SONG?? They had several hits...(I begin singing the opening lines of "Bullet with Butterfly Wings")
    --I hate that song.
    --Well, I guess that life's a bummer when you're a hummer.
    --Huh?
    --What about Wu Tang Clan?
    --Who?
    --(thinking to myself....don't say it....don't say it....don't say it).
    I will be forever upset at you for not saying it. You should have said it. You owed it to the memory of the Ol' Dirty Bastard to say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    At least Billy Corgin won't let Rubin nerf him.

    Also, did you know what the "it" was?
    You mean that Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin ta Fuck Wit? You probably should have let em know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    At least Billy Corgin won't let Rubin nerf him.
    Ah. Forgot this is delicate ground since you hated that Avett Bros album. I'm not a gigantic fan of everything RR's done. I didn't really dig that Weezer album w Beverly Hills (RR's doing) but I did like Blood Sugar Sex Magic and about every rap record he's done. I liked how Ogilala turned out -- we got the very first stripped-down Billy Corgan record in history as a result (BC is a notorious tinkerer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    I will be forever upset at you for not saying it. You should have said it. You owed it to the memory of the Ol' Dirty Bastard to say it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    You mean that Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin ta Fuck Wit? You probably should have let em know...
    But, administrators they don't understand, how I could just...
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    KILLAMAAAAAAN!
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    Cant believe timsfriendwuap didn’t include Radiohead on his list. Shameful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Cant believe timsfriendwuap didn’t include Radiohead on his list. Shameful.
    Nor the band that had 2 or the top 10 (if not top 5) albums of the decade. If Noel and Liam ever quit fighting with one another, they’re going after Professor Mac’s ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Cant believe timsfriendwuap didn’t include Radiohead on his list. Shameful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    Nor the band that had 2 or the top 10 (if not top 5) albums of the decade. If Noel and Liam ever quit fighting with one another, they’re going after Professor Mac’s ass.
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    What's this?

    Oasis? Those songs won't live forever.
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    List the top 5 albums of the 90s. That's a lot of heavy lifting to get Oasis on that list.
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    I still can't get over somebody saying Weezer was the only good band of the 90s... makes reason stare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    List the top 5 albums of the 90s. That's a lot of heavy lifting to get Oasis on that list.
    fuck you!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    List the top 5 albums of the 90s. That's a lot of heavy lifting to get Oasis on that list.
    The Gallagher’s might be in my own top 5. But hey was hyperbole. They should be in everyone top 10 though.

    I'm not a hip-hop connoisseur so, there are likely several rap albums that I can't think of. I would imagine The Chronic would be in most people's top 10.

    off the top of my head - in no particular order:
    Ok Computer and/or The Bends. Personally I prefer TB
    Nevermind - though In Uteuro could be substituted. I wasn't a big enough Cobain fan to put both in top 10
    Ten
    Definitely Maybe and (What's The Story) Morning Glory. So good when they came out and so re-listenable for decades to come
    Dookie
    Something by Beck. Honestly can't think of any of his album names
    Siamese Dream
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    I'm not a hip-hop connoisseur so, there are likely several rap albums that I can't think of. I would imagine The Chronic would be in most people's top 10.

    off the top of my head - in no particular order:
    Ok Computer and/or The Bends. Personally I prefer TB
    Nevermind - though In Uteuro could be substituted. I wasn't a big enough Cobain fan to put both in top 10
    Ten
    Definitely Maybe and (What's The Story) Morning Glory. So good when they came out and so re-listenable for decades to come
    Dookie
    Something by Beck. Honestly can't think of any of his album names
    Siamese Dream
    Odelay. That is the Dust Brothers' masterpiece/companion piece to Paul's Boutique. I love that album a lot. Midnite Vultures is a classic in its own right, but kind of in its own space as kind of a concept album-- not really for mass consumption.

    90s rap is probably its own thread, but right off the top I'd put Midnight Marauders, Enter the Wu Tang, the Chronic, Illmatic, and maybe Naughty by Nature's first album as the best 5 of the 90s.
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    Five Best Albums of the 1990's? Crap


    This isn't in order

    Rage Against the Machine, Rage Against the Machine
    Nevermind, Nirvana
    Unplugged, Alice in Chains
    Siamese Dream, Smashing Pumpkins
    40 ozs. to Freedom, Sublime

    if we go to 10

    Odelay, Beck
    Nimrod, Green Day (better than Dookie, imho--however, "Longview" is most honest song every written about suburban angst, moreso than Ben Folds's "Rockin' the Suburbs")
    Aquemini, Outkast
    Pinkerton, Weezer
    OK Computer, Radiohead

    If we can add 1989 and 2000

    Top 5 is now
    Rage Against the Machine, Rage Against the Machine
    Nevermind, Nirvana
    Paul's Boutique, Beastie Boys
    Stankonia, Outkast
    40 ozs. to Freedom, Sublime
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Five Best Albums of the 1990's? Crap


    This isn't in order

    Rage Against the Machine, Rage Against the Machine
    Nevermind, Nirvana
    Unplugged, Alice in Chains
    Siamese Dream, Smashing Pumpkins
    40 ozs. to Freedom, Sublime

    if we go to 10

    Odelay, Beck
    Nimrod, Green Day (better than Dookie, imho--however, "Longview" is most honest song every written about suburban angst, moreso than Ben Folds's "Rockin' the Suburbs")
    Aquemini, Outkast
    Pinkerton, Weezer
    OK Computer, Radiohead

    If we can add 1989 and 2000

    Top 5 is now
    Rage Against the Machine, Rage Against the Machine
    Nevermind, Nirvana
    Paul's Boutique, Beastie Boys
    Stankonia, Outkast
    40 ozs. to Freedom, Sublime
    I'm going to throw Toad the Wet Sprocket's Fear, Gin Blossoms' New Miserable Experience, and Collective Soul's Collective Soul.

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    I'm not sure it is a top 10er, but I listed To August and Everything After non-stop on a CD player with crappy speakers for one semester at The Glenwood.

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