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    Sheer numbers require democrats to make room for moderates and even somewhat right of center voters--Vox's founder in the NYT.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/o...core-ios-share

    Biden is stronger than ever, defying the pundits:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/o...core-ios-share

    For once I agree with AOC.

    https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-says-de...rty-us-1483218
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Sheer numbers require democrats to make room for moderates and even somewhat right of center voters--Vox's founder in the NYT.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/o...core-ios-share

    Biden is stronger than ever, defying the pundits:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/o...core-ios-share

    For once I agree with AOC.

    https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-says-de...rty-us-1483218
    We need more moderates. There are some great moderate conversatives likes PAC, YOhio and JL, but you've stopped being a moderate for quite a while. Your criticisms are kept exclusively to the left. I want the old SU back.

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    If Biden is nominated, everything will be okay. I'll vote for him, and he seems to be rounding third
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    We need more moderates. There are some great moderate conversatives likes PAC, YOhio and JL, but you've stopped being a moderate for quite a while. Your criticisms are kept exclusively to the left. I want the old SU back.
    I love the new SU. CatBlue!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I love the new SU. CatBlue!
    He's probably not even an atheist anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I love the new SU. CatBlue!
    Agreed. I will take a red shift politically for a blue shift in more important matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    He's probably not even an atheist anymore.
    He's certainly been less harsh towards the COJCOLDS lately.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    He's probably not even an atheist anymore.
    He's not an atheist. I think I recall him saying so.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    He's not an atheist. I think I recall him saying so.
    agnostic maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    If Biden is nominated, everything will be okay. I'll vote for him, and he seems to be rounding third
    I hope Biden is nominated... His son Hunter, the whore chasing UDel reject and crackhead, is the gift that keeps on giving. Just mentioning Hunter to Joe makes him get crazy:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I hope Biden is nominated... His son Hunter, the whore chasing UDel reject and crackhead, is the gift that keeps on giving. Just mentioning Hunter to Joe makes him get crazy:

    You just can't resist. That's declasse to call people crackheads. I'm sure there are people in your ward with drug problems. If you know who they are go up to them and call them junkies.

    Why don't you use this tone to talk about Trump? Melania was likely escorting (whoring in your words) when she met virtuous Trump.

    Why are you ok with Hunter even coming up during a debate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Sheer numbers require democrats to make room for moderates and even somewhat right of center voters--Vox's founder in the NYT.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/o...core-ios-share

    Biden is stronger than ever, defying the pundits:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/o...core-ios-share

    For once I agree with AOC.

    https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-says-de...rty-us-1483218
    I really hope you're right about this.

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    Yep. I am very center, formally right-of-center. I would even say that my vote for Hilary in 2016 represented a vote from an Independent right-of-center voter. When the GOP went extreme I stayed put and now get called a 'lefty.' In fairness, I have never had a greater appreciation for the Democratic Party or even true progressive politics than I have now. I am kind of relishing the pendulum swinging the other way in the next few years...
    "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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    Shit. I jinxed it. Trump wants Sanders, he's cheering him on with tweets, and establishment Democrats are freaked he may get the nomination, because he can't beat Trump. Everyone seems to think so. There's even dark Trump money supporting Sanders. Nightmare scenario is happening. The Sanders-Warren split is consolidating in Sanders as Warren's free fall continues. The moderates need to pick a candidate! Before it's like Trump in 2016. He can't win he can't win he can't win...Oh shit!

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...rs-rise-105825
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Shit. I jinxed it. Trump wants Sanders, he's cheering him on with tweets, and establishment Democrats are freaked he may get the nomination, because he can't beat Trump. Everyone seems to think so. There's even dark Trump money supporting Sanders. Nightmare scenario is happening. The Sanders-Warren split is consolidating in Sanders as Warren's free fall continues. The moderates need to pick a candidate! Before it's like Trump in 2016. He can't win he can't win he can't win...Oh shit!

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...rs-rise-105825
    Watching the meltdown after Joe Rogan's podcast indicating he would likely vote for Bernie (and Bernie touting it) is amusing. The left seems to be more fractured every day. Rogan has a huge following, and the segment of the left wishing to segregate themselves from him seem to be asking for political disaster. CNN gets in on the action:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Yep. I am very center, formally right-of-center. I would even say that my vote for Hilary in 2016 represented a vote from an Independent right-of-center voter. When the GOP went extreme I stayed put and now get called a 'lefty.' In fairness, I have never had a greater appreciation for the Democratic Party or even true progressive politics than I have now. I am kind of relishing the pendulum swinging the other way in the next few years...
    For a lot of people supporting or not supporting Trump is the metric of your conservatism. I think I'm about the only "progressive" person who posts on this board. Even my politics have moderated quite a bit, but not my concerns and disdain for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    For a lot of people supporting or not supporting Trump is the metric of your conservatism. I think I'm about the only "progressive" person who posts on this board. Even my politics have moderated quite a bit, but not my concerns and disdain for Trump.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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