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    #12 ranked, 3-0 BYU looks great so far with two road wins to start the season at Alabama and at Mississippi State, followed by beating up SUU at home last week, 7-0. Alabama went on in their next game after losing to us to beat Utah 3-0. We host the Utes this week. BYU should be very good this year after only losing two players from last year's team and adding a top 15 recruiting class that is already making a difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    The other poll had us ranked before the season and before the coaches did. Moving up that quickly in the rankings on both of them has even surprised me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    #12 ranked, 3-0 BYU looks great so far with two road wins to start the season at Alabama and at Mississippi State, followed by beating up SUU at home last week, 7-0. Alabama went on in their next game after losing to us to beat Utah 3-0. We host the Utes this week. BYU should be very good this year after only losing two players from last year's team and adding a top 15 recruiting class that is already making a difference.


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    The three pivotal games this year are Utah, the next game, Texas A&M who defeated BYU last year and is ranked and Santa Clara away, who is also or at least was ranked and is always tough for BYU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    The three pivotal games this year are Utah, the next game, Texas A&M who defeated BYU last year and is ranked and Santa Clara away, who is also or at least was ranked and is always tough for BYU.
    Santa Clara is currently 1-3 with all of those losses against top 25 teams. They will be tough. I don't think Utah is going to be a problem for this team, but in this sport you never know. A&M is a huge game given that there aren't a lot of opportunities on the schedule to make a lot of noise, but it is winnable. Kansas on the road is another challenge, as they seem to be off to a good start. And Long Beach St. on the road is also a good team. I would have preferred the SCU game not to be the first conference game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Santa Clara is currently 1-3 with all of those losses against top 25 teams. They will be tough. I don't think Utah is going to be a problem for this team, but in this sport you never know. A&M is a huge game given that there aren't a lot of opportunities on the schedule to make a lot of noise, but it is winnable. Kansas on the road is another challenge, as they seem to be off to a good start. And Long Beach St. on the road is also a good team. I would have preferred the SCU game not to be the first conference game.
    You've analyzed the important games of the season. Even though Utah shouldn't be a problem, the rivalry makes it harder even when BYU has the better team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    You've analyzed the important games of the season. Even though Utah shouldn't be a problem, the rivalry makes it harder even when BYU has the better team.
    It's a little harder, but BYU leads the all time series with them, 21-7-2. Historically Utah wasn't very good, but the last decade or so they've usually been decent to good most years. In the last 10 games it's still 7-2-1 for BYU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    It's a little harder, but BYU leads the all time series with them, 21-7-2. Historically Utah wasn't very good, but the last decade or so they've usually been decent to good most years. In the last 10 games it's still 7-2-1 for BYU.
    On paper, BYU should be much better. But given recent developments I am always anxious about playing Utah teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    On paper, BYU should be much better. But given recent developments I am always anxious about playing Utah teams.
    well, on the field in womens soccer BYU almost always takes care of business against Utah, maybe even better than womens volleyball does. Those would be the two sports where Utah has had the most trouble with us over the years. But yes, every game against a halfway decent opponent will make fans nervous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    well, on the field in womens soccer BYU almost always takes care of business against Utah, maybe even better than womens volleyball does. Those would be the two sports where Utah has had the most trouble with us over the years. But yes, every game against a halfway decent opponent will make fans nervous.
    You're correct that BYU has faltered more often against Utah in volleyball, despite fielding inferior teams. Plus, soccer is a cruel sport where an inferior team can defeat the superior team if one lapse occurs. You've seen the attacking team possess the ball but the defending team plays in a such a compact manner to prevent the score and to score on a counter-attack. If BYU can get up 2-0 or score early then I'll fee better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    You're correct that BYU has faltered more often against Utah in volleyball, despite fielding inferior teams. Plus, soccer is a cruel sport where an inferior team can defeat the superior team if one lapse occurs. You've seen the attacking team possess the ball but the defending team plays in a such a compact manner to prevent the score and to score on a counter-attack. If BYU can get up 2-0 or score early then I'll fee better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    You're correct that BYU has faltered more often against Utah in volleyball, despite fielding inferior teams. Plus, soccer is a cruel sport where an inferior team can defeat the superior team if one lapse occurs. You've seen the attacking team possess the ball but the defending team plays in a such a compact manner to prevent the score and to score on a counter-attack. If BYU can get up 2-0 or score early then I'll fee better.
    I'm more confident than usual going into the Utah game this year because of BYU's play so far and because of Utah having lost some very key players from last year and being picked for 8th in the Pac 12. They are 2-2 with losses to Clemson and Alabama and wins at home of 3-0 over USU and 1-0 over Cal-Poly. But you're right that soccer is a crazy game where the more talented team doesn't always win -- sort of like baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    I'm more confident than usual going into the Utah game this year because of BYU's play so far and because of Utah having lost some very key players from last year and being picked for 8th in the Pac 12. They are 2-2 with losses to Clemson and Alabama and wins at home of 3-0 over USU and 1-0 over Cal-Poly. But you're right that soccer is a crazy game where the more talented team doesn't always win -- sort of like baseball.
    Baseball is a good analogy. If a crappy team wins one third of its games, sometimes against good teams. I hope your optimism bears fruit. I'd like to see a four or five goal differential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Baseball is a good analogy. If a crappy team wins one third of its games, sometimes against good teams. I hope your optimism bears fruit. I'd like to see a four or five goal differential.
    To me so far this team has a similar feel to the 2016 and 2015 teams that went 18-3-1 and 16-3-2. Both of those were very good teams that advanced in the NCAA tournament, although neither was perfect in their non-conference games against top competition. But they took care of business in all the games they needed to, plus some good wins also. I think A&M at home is a game we can win given that we actually played them pretty well at their place last year despite the loss, and we did it with the same players as this year minus Gates and Wade. So as a team they will probably have a decent idea of what to expect. Also, I'm not sure I remember a freshman class that has contributed as much this early. I'm pretty bullish on this team so far. FWIW, A&M was tied by Brown, 0-0 in their last game.
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    TAM was either tired, or BYU played extremely well as BYU dominated in all phases of the game. But for the keeper, and BYU would have had a five to nothing or six to nothing game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    TAM was either tired, or BYU played extremely well as BYU dominated in all phases of the game. But for the keeper, and BYU would have had a five to nothing or six to nothing game.
    Could be they were tired. It was their third game in 6 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Could be they were tired. It was their third game in 6 days.
    Conversely, UVU packed it in on defense and BYU dominated but did not play well.

    We'll see how BYU does in its first major away test at Kansas, tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Conversely, UVU packed it in on defense and BYU dominated but did not play well.

    We'll see how BYU does in its first major away test at Kansas, tomorrow.
    The last yellow card on Shepherd that led to BYU having to play the last 25 or so with 10 players was a joke. It was barely a foul, much less worthy of a yellow. The first one on her was ok. The second one was called just a few minutes after BYU scored. The goal opened things up once UVU was behind, and I think there would have likely been more BYU goals if they had not been down a player.

    Also, the game started about 30 minutes late, the field conditions were deplorable, there was a heavy wind, and the referee allowed UVU to play a very physical style with BYU not really allowed the same. UVU also got a free kick in the closing seconds off what looked like a phantom foul, as if to give them one more last ditch set piece attempt to tie it. Weird game all around. I wouldn't judge very much about BYU based on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    The last yellow card on Shepherd that led to BYU having to play the last 25 or so with 10 players was a joke. It was barely a foul, much less worthy of a yellow. The first one on her was ok. The second one was called just a few minutes after BYU scored. The goal opened things up once UVU was behind, and I think there would have likely been more BYU goals if they had not been down a player.

    Also, the game started about 30 minutes late, the field conditions were deplorable, there was a heavy wind, and the referee allowed UVU to play a very physical style with BYU not really allowed the same. UVU also got a free kick in the closing seconds off what looked like a phantom foul, as if to give them one more last ditch set piece attempt to tie it. Weird game all around. I wouldn't judge very much about BYU based on it.
    When BYU plays UVU again, they should have some field and officiating requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    When BYU plays UVU again, they should have some field and officiating requirements.
    Hopefully we don't play them at their place again. There's no real reason for it other than to be friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Hopefully we don't play them at their place again. There's no real reason for it other than to be friendly.
    Big Sister doesn't need to be friendly. Playing them should be enough.
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    BYU up 2-0 with 12 minutes left @ #14 Kansas

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    Final. 2-0.

    Very impressive road win.
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    Awesome. I wondered how the red card and injury issues would affect the match. What a great start to the season for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public View Post
    Awesome. I wondered how the red card and injury issues would affect the match. What a great start to the season for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Bro, you have work to do. We’re waiting . . .
    Hah, no. Someone else can take a turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public View Post
    Hah, no. Someone else can take a turn.
    Who are the injured players? I would assume Folino since she was a key player last year who has only played in part of one game this season, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Who are the injured players? I would assume Folino since she was a key player last year who has only played in part of one game this season, I believe.
    I had bad information. The person who told me about the injury was confusing women's soccer with women's basketball. I believe she was thinking of the Shaylee Gonzales (WBB player) injury.
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