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    So this could get ugly and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Commerce Dept put them on an entity list, requiring U.S. suppliers to go through export controls to sell to Huawei. The Trump administration also issued an EO banning Huawei equipment on US telecom networks.

    I'm not sure what to think about all this. When it comes to the Chinese there seems to be a blurring of partisan lines. Former Obama people are lobbying for Huawei while the DNC is banning Huawei and ZTE devices.

    Anyways, would definitely be interested in seeing what the board thinks on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    So this could get ugly and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Commerce Dept put them on an entity list, requiring U.S. suppliers to go through export controls to sell to Huawei. The Trump administration also issued an EO banning Huawei equipment on US telecom networks.

    I'm not sure what to think about all this. When it comes to the Chinese there seems to be a blurring of partisan lines. Former Obama people are lobbying for Huawei while the DNC is banning Huawei and ZTE devices.

    Anyways, would definitely be interested in seeing what the board thinks on this one.
    It might be the rare instance of Trump tripping and accidentally stumbling into doing something helpful for once.

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    I have some contacts with very good knowledge of business and government in China. Huawei was founded as, still is, and will continue to be an arm of the PLA, regardless of whatever the company and the CCP claim publicly.

    EDIT: Which means I think countries and businesses would be nuts to install Huawei gear, and the pressure the government is putting on them is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I was hoping you'd reply. What do you think of fears over 5G gear?

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    DHS warns of 'strong concerns' that Chinese-made drones are stealing data

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/dhs-chinese-drone-warning/index.html


    Chinese-made drones may be sending sensitive flight data to their manufacturers in China, where it can be accessed by the government there, the US Department of Homeland Security warned in an alert issued Monday obtained by CNN.

    The drones are a "potential risk to an organization's information," the alert from DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency states. The products "contain components that can compromise your data and share your information on a server accessed beyond the company itself."
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    I hope that Huawei "forks" Android and makes its own version... That will make them secure!

    Exclusive: Google suspends some business with Huawei after Trump blacklist - source

    Alphabet Inc’s Google has suspended business with Huawei that requires the transfer of hardware, software and technical services except those publicly available via open source licensing, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters on Sunday, in a blow to the Chinese technology company that the U.S. government has sought to blacklist around the world.

    Holders of current Huawei smartphones with Google apps, however, will continue to be able to use and download app updates provided by Google, a Google spokesperson said, confirming earlier reporting by Reuters.
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    Good thread on recent interview given by Huawei CEO.


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    U.S. pushes hard for a ban on Huawei in Europe, but the firm’s 5G prices are nearly irresistible

    Last month, the Netherlands’ leading wireless carrier chose Huawei to provide equipment for its next-generation 5G wireless network. The carrier, KPN, insisted the choice was based on quality. But Huawei had another advantage: price.

    Huawei underbid the existing vendor, Swedish firm Ericsson, by 60 percent, according to two industry officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter — offering a price that wouldn’t even cover the cost of parts.

    The company can afford to provide such steep discounts in part because it has a silent partner: the Chinese government. Huawei gets hundreds of millions of dollars in annual subsidies and, together with another Chinese firm, is guaranteed a majority share of the domestic market, the world’s largest.
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    Yeah. What kills me is the lecturing by the ChiComs about what constitutes 'national security grounds.' So rich coming from a country that bans half the internet and requires majority Chinese ownership for any web-based company operating in the country.

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    i guess the good news is that it’s probably not sustainable
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Good thread on recent interview given by Huawei CEO.

    Good to see you're okay, old man. I was going to ask if anyone had checked on you. Tornadoes in Dayton. Who would have thought?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Good to see you're okay, old man. I was going to ask if anyone had checked on you. Tornadoes in Dayton. Who would have thought?
    I have a feeling that YO is a safe distance away from those tornadoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Yeah. What kills me is the lecturing by the ChiComs about what constitutes 'national security grounds.' So rich coming from a country that bans half the internet and requires majority Chinese ownership for any web-based company operating in the country.
    They need to shut their whore mouths. They want 5G so they can better monitor everything going on inside and outside the country. Very, very evil.
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    ChiCom ambassador speaks to the Swedes. Doesn't address Ericsson but s-talks America.

    Ambassador Gui stressed that the trade war started by the US hurts other countries and itself. The trade war deliberately started by the US damages the US economy, and the US will not win from it. Of course the necessary counter-measures by China will also affect the economy of China. The global economy will suffer from the trade war too. These consequences are the last thing we want to see. Our door is open for trade negotiation with the US. If the US wants to talk, let’s talk, but all talks must be based on equality, trust and mutual benefits. If the US sticks to its gun, we have no choice but to fight it till the end. In fact, the US is ill. It needs to see a doctor to treat the illness, instead of blaming others and shifting the trouble to others.
    http://www.chinaembassy.se/eng/sgxw/t1666328.htm

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    So help me if the Chinese make me support Trump I will never forgive them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    So help me if the Chinese make me support Trump I will never forgive them.
    Well Trump wants to find out what allies contributued to the intelligence that led he and his campaign being investigated. So I'm sure he can work in some irreparable damage to NATO and the Five Eyes.

    That outweighs him taking China to task.

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    Huawei Braces for Phone Sales Drop of Up to 60 Million Overseas

    Huawei Technologies Co. is preparing for a drop in international smartphone shipments of 40 million to 60 million as the Trump administration’s blacklisting hammers one of the Chinese tech giant’s most important businesses.


    China’s largest technology company is crunching internal estimates and exploring options including pulling the latest model of its marquee overseas label, the Honor 20, people familiar with the matter say. The device begins selling in parts of Europe June 21 including France and the U.K., but executives are monitoring the launch and may cut off shipments if it sells poorly as expected, they said, asking not to be identified discussing internal matters. Already, two of France’s largest carriers aren’t bothering with the Honor at all, two people familiar with the matter said

    Huawei sales and marketing managers are internally charting a drop in volumes of anywhere between 40 million to 60 million smartphones this year, the people said. That’s a big chunk of an international business that in 2018 accounted for almost half of the 206 million phones it moved. The unusually wide range underscores the uncertainty gripping Huawei, a Chinese national champion that Washington accuses of aiding Beijing in espionage -- something the company has repeatedly denied.
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    Oh boy.


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