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Originally posted by pelagius View PostThat was just a typo on K-dog's part. Gardini is playing OH."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostCorrect because you understand volleyball, but is out of system simply a term that the pass to the setter is not where the setter can set up the offensive player? I've struggled understanding what is considered out of system and in system. I know it's related to passing.
In system: pass is good enough that the setter can set any of his offensive options. In the men's game that typically is 4: middle quick, front row OH hitter on the left, opposite hitter on the right either in the front or behind the 3M line (behind the 3 meter line it's often called a D-set or D-ball), or the BIC.
Out of system: pass results in setter losing at least some offensive options. If the pass pulls the setter away from his normal spot it's really easy to lose the middle quick and the BIC. Worst case: only one feasible offensive option for the setter.Last edited by pelagius; 01-11-2019, 02:12 PM.
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So my main thought from the match is that this team has a pretty high ceiling. I think it's quite a bit higher than last year's ceiling. On the other hand, I think there is quite a bit of uncertainty about whether it comes together. Reasons to think the ceiling is higher:
1. Garcia-Fernandez looks like he has increased his shot selection. Last year he was pretty much an angle and hard angle hitter. Last night I saw a lot more variety than that. In particular, he was patient and adjusted his swing to the block he faced. Hopefully, he can consistently do that.
2. I thought Stanley's connection with the pin hitters was good last night. I just didn't think Durkin set Garcia-Fernandez very well last year, but I thought Stanley looked good to all the pins.
3. Stanley will go for sets that I think Durkin didn't even try (or rarely tried). For example, several times last night Stanley made really difficult back sets across the court to GGF to avoid setting the left pin and facing a triple block.
4. Gardini just has more upside the Brenden Sander (and I don't mean this as a knock on Brenden Sander).
5. More serving potential. This one is a bit more marginal.
Reasons to be pessimistic about getting close to their ceiling:
1. Libero lets them down. I thought it was a poor match for Hendrickson. Too many over passes last night. Ohio State is a really aggressive serving team and they had already played a couple of previous matches so that may explain some of what happened.
2. Passing lets them down in general.
3. The connection between Stanley and the middles is behind where you would want it to be. I am the least worried about this ... I think it will come around.Last edited by pelagius; 01-11-2019, 02:18 PM.
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Originally posted by pelagius View PostSo my main thought from the match is that this team has a pretty high ceiling. I think it's quite a bit higher than last year's ceiling. On the other hand, I think there is quite a bit of uncertainty about whether it comes together. Reasons to think the ceiling is higher:
1. Garcia-Fernandez looks like he has increased his shot selection. Last year he was pretty much an angle and hard angle hitter. Last night I saw a lot more variety than that. In particular, he was patient and adjusted his swing to the block he faced. Hopefully, he can consistently do that.
2. I thought Stanley's connection with the pin hitters was good last night. I just didn't think Durkin set Garcia-Fernandez very well last year, but I thought Stanley looked good to all the pins.
3. Stanley will go for sets that I think Durkin didn't even try (or rarely tried). For example, several times last night Stanley made really difficult back sets across the court to GGF to avoid setting the left pin and facing a triple block.
4. Gardini just has more upside the Brenden Sander (and I don't mean this as a knock on Brenden Sander).
5. More serving potential. This one is a bit more marginal.
Reasons to be pessimistic about getting close to their ceiling:
1. Libero lets them down. I thought it was a poor match for Hendrickson. Too many over passes last night. Ohio State is a really aggressive serving team and they had already played a couple of previous matches so that may explain some of what happened.
2. Passing lets them down in general.
3. The connection between Stanley and the middles is behind where you would want it to be. I am the least worried about this ... I think it will come around.
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Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI like your analysis. I really think we can be better on the outside and on the backside than we were last year. I think our serving game is as good or a bit better than last year. I’m worried because I think a Jaylen Reyes level Libero takes us to a National Championship but I don’t think we have one on this team. If we were able to get in system against good but not elite serving we would be amazing because of the size and skill of our MB1, OH1, and OPP. Instead, we will end up looking like last year and hoping our elite pin hitters can carry us against 2 and 3 blockers."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostHow bad is our libero?
I did like our starter sacrificing his mouth onto the stanchion in the game against OSU. Gutsy run.
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Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI thought Jon Stanley might be a libero type because he clearly isn’t a physical specimen. We shall see.
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Just a few observations from the match:
1. Gardini is a super fun player to watch. He just does so many things really well. I'm probably overly impressed, but outside of DeFalco I'm not sure there is anyone better at OH than him in the NCAA at the moment (maybe someone like Hawaii's Steijn Van Tilburg or Pepperdine's Wieczorek). In terms of fun players to watch I put him up there with Patch, Micah Ma'a (UCLA), and Tui Tuileta (former Hawaii libero).
2. I found it interesting that Akana got time at OH2. He's the first of the Non-Gardini Freshman to get time (Oberender came in a little later at MB). He did have a nice block and kill in the third set. I think most volleyball people would have ranked Baldwin as the bigger/more promising recruit (but I could be wrong about this). Impressive for Akana.Last edited by pelagius; 01-15-2019, 02:03 AM.
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Originally posted by pelagius View PostJust a few observations from the match:
1. Gardini is a super fun player to watch. He just does so many things really well. I'm probably overly impressed, but outside of DeFalco I'm not sure there is anyone better at OH than him in the NCAA at the moment (maybe someone like Hawaii's Steijn Van Tilburg or Pepperdine's Wieczorek). In terms of fun players to watch I put him up there with Patch, Micah Ma'a (UCLA), and Tui Tuileta (former Hawaii libero).
2. I found it interesting that Akana got time at OH2. He's the first of the Non-Gardini Freshman to get time (Oberender came in a little later at MB). He did have a nice block and kill in the third set. I think most volleyball people would have ranked Baldwin as the bigger/more promising recruit (but I could be wrong about this). Impressive for Akana."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostIs Baldwin an OH or MB?Last edited by pelagius; 01-16-2019, 01:13 PM.
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Originally posted by pelagius View PostI should note that both Akana and Baldwin were top 50 recruits (what's called the Fab 50, https://volleyballmag.com/boys-fab-50-060818/ ). So it's not like Akana was some obscure recruit. That said, this isn't like other sports. BYU getting a top 50 is not a big deal. The vast majority of BYU's domestic recruits were top 50 recruits or were left off because volleyball is a fringe sport and the people compiling these things don't have that strong of incentives to get these things right (... Storm was left of in 2014 even though he played for like the national under 19 team)."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostI wondered about that. It's not like football where millions of fans are following recruits from eighth grade on, watching rankings and ratings rise and fall. Wouldn't making a national team be more significant than one of those rankings, other than national player of the year?
Garcia-Fernandez
Fa'alago
Hendrickson
Stanley
Not Fab 50:
Ferreira
Miki
Gardini
All the ones not ranked, were international players outside of the ranking system. So it's not like it's useless.
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