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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccermom View Post
    Yeah. Speaking of modesty, it would be nice if it was defined in terms of behaviors instead of inches.

    I would also love an adjustment to garments that allowed for shoulders to be exposed. (In my dreams lol).
    So would I.
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    As part of Stake Conference today, the presiding Seventy had us sustain leaders from the prophet on down, and then asked us to sustain the following Stake callings... "for now." I was surprised at how many people laughed.
    My wife is in the stake YW presidency. They have a "secret" meeting with one of the stake presidency this week. All three (four?) presidency members and the 1st councilor in the stake presidency. "Secret" I guess because its not on the calendar and he told them to not mention it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccermom View Post
    I wish there could be a change that would not keep families separated for weddings. It sucked when my sister got married and my parents couldn’t be in the temple. They did a ring ceremony after and were criticized for it because it supposedly detracted from their “sacred sealing” but give me a break. How is trying to include family in a very special day wrong?
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    The post is about a SP talking about how a TR should be for more than just attending weddings, if the church got out of performing weddings it would take care of that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccermom View Post
    I wish there could be a change that would not keep families separated for weddings. It sucked when my sister got married and my parents couldn’t be in the temple. They did a ring ceremony after and were criticized for it because it supposedly detracted from their “sacred sealing” but give me a break. How is trying to include family in a very special day wrong?
    None of my wife's siblings were at our wedding. All of them were under the age of 18 and couldn't be there. My brother-in-law will not have any of his siblings at his wedding. His two older siblings are heathens and his non-heathen sibling is 17 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    None of my wife's siblings were at our wedding. All of them were under the age of 18 and couldn't be there. My brother-in-law will not have any of his siblings at his wedding. His two older siblings are heathens and his non-heathen sibling is 17 years old.
    That's right --forgot about the younger kids and unendowed. My baby brother was 7 when I got married and we had to hire a sitter for him to wait with him in the waiting room. My sister had just had a baby who was 2 months old and she was very stressed about leaving her alone during the sealing. I had lots of "heathen" family members who had to chill in the waiting room too. Needless to say, their experience of feeling excluded didn't really warm them up to TCoJCOLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
    ...if the church got out of performing weddings it would take care of that problem.
    I hope this happens. In days gone by, in Latin American countries people had to be married civilly before they attended an LDS temple sealing ceremony -- which weren't recognized as lawful marriages. People I know there got married civilly one day, went home separately, then went to their sealing the next day. I don't know if that is still the practice there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccermom View Post
    That's right --forgot about the younger kids and unendowed. My baby brother was 7 when I got married and we had to hire a sitter for him to wait with him in the waiting room. My sister had just had a baby who was 2 months old and she was very stressed about leaving her alone during the sealing. I had lots of "heathen" family members who had to chill in the waiting room too. Needless to say, their experience of feeling excluded didn't really warm them up to TCoJCOLD.
    Why would you have to hire a sitter for your brother when you had lots of heathen family members who had to chill in the waiting room? Couldn't your brother have chilled with them?
    Your sister was worried about someone watching her 2 month old for a duration of less than an hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    Why would you have to hire a sitter for your brother when you had lots of heathen family members who had to chill in the waiting room? Couldn't your brother have chilled with them?
    Your sister was worried about someone watching her 2 month old for a duration of less than an hour?
    You've obviously never met her sister's 2-month-old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    Why would you have to hire a sitter for your brother when you had lots of heathen family members who had to chill in the waiting room? Couldn't your brother have chilled with them?
    Your sister was worried about someone watching her 2 month old for a duration of less than an hour?
    My sister has anxiety and is very protective of her kids so yeah she didn't really trust anyone. Maybe it was the hormones. My relatives didn't arrive at the temple right when we had to be there so yeah, we had to arrange for someone to watch my brother. Basically it was someone at the wedding. We just paid them to do more than just wait. Keeping an eye on my brother is a handful. I think it was one of my husband's sisters who was in high school but I really can't remember all the details as it was over 20 years ago. I just remember I was stressed because I was afraid my sister would bail on me because of the baby and was glad she didn't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    Why would you have to hire a sitter for your brother when you had lots of heathen family members who had to chill in the waiting room? Couldn't your brother have chilled with them?
    Your sister was worried about someone watching her 2 month old for a duration of less than an hour?
    You leave the child with the heathens for an hour, he or she is at risk of catching heathen. It is not a risk that a faithful Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    You leave the child with the heathens for an hour, he or she is at risk of catching heathen. It is not a risk that a faithful Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should take.
    You seem to speak from experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I hope this happens. In days gone by, in Latin American countries people had to be married civilly before they attended an LDS temple sealing ceremony -- which weren't recognized as lawful marriages. People I know there got married civilly one day, went home separately, then went to their sealing the next day. I don't know if that is still the practice there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I hope this happens. In days gone by, in Latin American countries people had to be married civilly before they attended an LDS temple sealing ceremony -- which weren't recognized as lawful marriages. People I know there got married civilly one day, went home separately where they then got together and proceeded to consummate their civil union, then went to their sealing the next day. I don't know if that is still the practice there.
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    Don't worry, LVAllen, I fifh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Don't worry, LVAllen, I fifh.
    Ha! Maybe, but back in the day that wasn't what was supposed to be done. They went home, got on the bus, and rode for 4 days to the nearest temple in Mesa, AZ, where they ere sealed. Maybe things have changed now that they have 2 temples in Guatemala.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I hope this happens. In days gone by, in Latin American countries people had to be married civilly before they attended an LDS temple sealing ceremony -- which weren't recognized as lawful marriages. People I know there got married civilly one day, went home separately, then went to their sealing the next day. I don't know if that is still the practice there.
    This is what happened when my family lived in Germany in the early '70s. We had several brides stay with us till they could get married, civilly first - then a trip to the Swiss Temple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    My wife is in the stake YW presidency. They have a "secret" meeting with one of the stake presidency this week. All three (four?) presidency members and the 1st councilor in the stake presidency. "Secret" I guess because its not on the calendar and he told them to not mention it.
    Turned out to be a meeting to talk about another meeting. No release, just wasted time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Ha! Maybe, but back in the day that wasn't what was supposed to be done. They went home, got on the bus, and rode for 4 days to the nearest temple in Mesa, AZ, where they ere sealed. Maybe things have changed now that they have 2 temples in Guatemala.
    Seems super unnecessary. The temple covenant doesn't require chastity between two couples who are legal and lawfully wedded but not yet sealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Seems super unnecessary. The temple covenant doesn't require chastity between two couples who are legal and lawfully wedded but not yet sealed.
    I just work here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I just work here.
    Weird because I thought you said you hope it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Turned out to be a meeting to talk about another meeting. No release, just wasted time.
    Super surprising. IMO, when a church meeting is pushed as being super important, it usually ends up being exactly that with things like new doctrine being learned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Weird because I thought you said you hope it happens.
    Gotta be careful with that “I thought you said“ stuff. Try to keep up. I would like to see the church to stop marrying people and do only sealings. Very simple. Dayton-level language, in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Gotta be careful with that “I thought you said“ stuff. Try to keep up. I would like to see the church to stop marrying people and do only sealings. Very simple. Dayton-level language, in fact.

    DH, I appreciate your efforts to monitor my activity on CS. Flattering. Please talk to YO about a rent deal. I’ll pay you each a little something for the space inside your skulls and for my lurking space here.
    lol. Don’t flatter yourself. I never think about you until you post here. But whenever you do, it reminds me that I wish you didn’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    lol. Don’t flatter yourself. I never think about you until you post here. But whenever you do, it reminds me that I wish you didn’t.
    My mere presence here (occasionally, on totally benign subjects) bothers you that much? Of course I am flattered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Super surprising. IMO, when a church meeting is pushed as being super important, it usually ends up being exactly that with things like new doctrine being learned.
    Ok, that was funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Seems super unnecessary. The temple covenant doesn't require chastity between two couples who are legal and lawfully wedded but not yet sealed.
    I wonder if the church is worried that young couples will hook up before marriage and feel they are okay with the sealing because they are now married. I know when I was in my twenties I could have maneuvered that kind of thinking in my head because of my desire to get laid and the pressure of a temple ceremony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
    I wonder if the church is worried that young couples will hook up before marriage and feel they are okay with the sealing because they are now married. I know when I was in my twenties I could have maneuvered that kind of thinking in my head because of my desire to get laid and the pressure of a temple ceremony.
    Interesting point. Probably depends on whether either or both have been endowed. Hooking up early for endowed people has different consequences than the non-anointed. I could see couples where neither has been to the temple hooking up prior to marriage, getting married civilly, and then sealed as you describe. And I could see those that are endowed crying foul. But that fact is, they have entered into covenants that others have not.
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