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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
    The biggest thing that has helped me avoid this is writing down what I actually eat. Most days there's a "Snack" entry for somewhere between 4:00 and 5:00 in the afternoon when I need something. But there's no way I'll stop at Dairy Queen for a banana split, or Chick-Fil-A for a chocolate milk shake if I have to write it down. The cookies can still be an issue, but we hardly ever have those around to tempt me. Snacks are usually chips and salsa, or crackers, or some nuts and raisins. And I'm still having a salad for lunch pretty much every day. That seems to help too.
    I have those occasionally. Yesterday I had the Market Salad from Chik Fil A. The amazing thing to me is how sugar doesn't tempt me. Sometimes if I need a snack mid afternoon I'll have a piece of fruit.

    Down 6 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    it's all about calories in and calories out. if IF isn't working, it's because you are consuming too many calories still. and if that sounds obvious, my point is the only reason it worked for me is that it was a way for me to keep calories down.
    I have found this to be true. I tried IF without any change to diet, and it made zero difference. It didn't matter if I ate all of my calories within 4 hours and then fasted another 20 hours straight. If the calories were the same, my weight didn't change.

    Now I find skipping breakfast is an easy way to keep calories down, but I have to follow that up with smart choices for lunch and dinner, and eliminating all sugary foods altogether. I also avoid most fried foods, though the occasional chik fil a sandwich finds it's way to me.

    Down 10 pounds this morning. I think I want to lose another 10-30, depending on how much muscle mass i put on.

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    I'm down 12 this morning. Only three more to go.

    I eat a normal, but simple breakfast, have a salad for lunch pretty much every day, have smaller portions for dinner and have greatly reduced the carbohydrates that I eat. Even with less exercise recently, I'm still headed (slowly) down. I'm tempted to do something more drastic to get those last three pounds off. But I will have to keep them off for several weeks before easing up on the diet - if I can ever do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    I have found this to be true. I tried IF without any change to diet, and it made zero difference. It didn't matter if I ate all of my calories within 4 hours and then fasted another 20 hours straight. If the calories were the same, my weight didn't change.

    Now I find skipping breakfast is an easy way to keep calories down, but I have to follow that up with smart choices for lunch and dinner, and eliminating all sugary foods altogether. I also avoid most fried foods, though the occasional chik fil a sandwich finds it's way to me.

    Down 10 pounds this morning. I think I want to lose another 10-30, depending on how much muscle mass i put on.
    IF was never meant to be done with zero change to diet. The whole basis of IF is the theory of insulin resistance and how it impacts obesity. You already admitted that you were pounding the sugar and sweets. That would completely negate any benefit you were getting from IF.

    All calories are not created equal. 1000 calories of protein impacts your body differently than 1000 calories of carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    IF was never meant to be done with zero change to diet. The whole basis of IF is the theory of insulin resistance and how it impacts obesity. You already admitted that you were pounding the sugar and sweets. That would completely negate any benefit you were getting from IF.

    All calories are not created equal. 1000 calories of protein impacts your body differently than 1000 calories of carbs.
    Since I've been keeping track of what I eat, looks like my calories are 20% protein, 40% carbs, and 40% fat.

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    Down 12. Even though I've hit a plateau, tape measurements confirm I'm getting leaner.

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    Way to go.
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    I'm basically stuck at down 10-12 and regressed badly today. We ran out of lettuce, so I ate something with more calories for lunch, my daughter brought home half a sandwich from lunch with her mother and I ate that too. And snacks. I'll have to treat tomorrow like Fast Sunday to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
    I'm basically stuck at down 10-12 and regressed badly today. We ran out of lettuce, so I ate something with more calories for lunch, my daughter brought home half a sandwich from lunch with her mother and I ate that too. And snacks. I'll have to treat tomorrow like Fast Sunday to make up for it.
    I think it's ok to regress for a day sometimes. Yesterday I had a banana split from Dairy Queen. It was to first dessert/treat in a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    I think it's ok to regress for a day sometimes. Yesterday I had a banana split from Dairy Queen. It was to first dessert/treat in a month.
    Regression is great. I try for it at least daily.
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    Bo got me thinking pretty seriously about getting back into a uniform. Sitting 258 right now and needing to get to 186 by next February. I have run a couple calculators and I will be right up against it to get 20 good years by age 60, but it'll give me something to shoot for. I will check in every week or so to give myself some accountability. Let's see if I can get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copelius View Post
    Bo got me thinking pretty seriously about getting back into a uniform. Sitting 258 right now and needing to get to 186 by next February. I have run a couple calculators and I will be right up against it to get 20 good years by age 60, but it'll give me something to shoot for. I will check in every week or so to give myself some accountability. Let's see if I can get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copelius View Post
    Bo got me thinking pretty seriously about getting back into a uniform. Sitting 258 right now and needing to get to 186 by next February. I have run a couple calculators and I will be right up against it to get 20 good years by age 60, but it'll give me something to shoot for. I will check in every week or so to give myself some accountability. Let's see if I can get it done.
    You can do it! It takes plate discipline, and you'll have to ease into some exercise. I'd recommend both weights and cardio. I emphasize easing into it, because otherwise you'll hurt yourself and sabotage your plans.

    Download the myfitnesspal app and start keeping track of everything you eat. You get used to eating less after a while. You just have to settle it with yourself what you're going to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    You can do it! It takes plate discipline, and you'll have to ease into some exercise. I'd recommend both weights and cardio. I emphasize easing into it, because otherwise you'll hurt yourself and sabotage your plans.

    Download the myfitnesspal app and start keeping track of everything you eat. You get used to eating less after a while. You just have to settle it with yourself what you're going to do.
    Thanks for the encouragement. Do y'all suggest trying to find a slot now or waiting until I am closer to qualifying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copelius View Post
    Sitting 258 right now and needing to get to 186 by next February.
    Wow, 72 pounds. And I'm struggling to get the last three off to get to my goal - which is real close to your final goal.

    I've had to change my eating habits just to get down 12 pounds so far. I've kept track of what I've eaten for every meal since I started on February 4th and noted my weight every morning. I'm only a semi-serious dieter, but I have a salad for lunch just about every day, eat a lot fewer carbohydrates, avoid taking second helpings and mostly skip deserts. But I still feel the need for some sort of snack every day about 4:00 in the afternoon. I'm about ready to do something more drastic to finally hit my weight goal. But I need to keep it off for at least two weeks before I'll even consider easing up. For me, exercise has made less of a difference than diet, but I'm back doing the YMCA stuff again and that might make the difference on those last three pounds.

    Here's a chart showing my progress for the first month or so with notes about how I felt about it: https://i.imgur.com/E8FKmou.jpg Note the points of discouragement and encouragement. Note also that it varies by two to three pounds naturally, so I don't take it personally when I'm up by two one day.

    I'll be rooting for you. Hang in there and share your feelings about your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copelius View Post
    Thanks for the encouragement. Do y'all suggest trying to find a slot now or waiting until I am closer to qualifying?
    I would wait until I was closer to actually apply, but it never hurts to start talking to people, networking, etc. early on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
    Wow, 72 pounds. And I'm struggling to get the last three off to get to my goal - which is real close to your final goal.

    I've had to change my eating habits just to get down 12 pounds so far. I've kept track of what I've eaten for every meal since I started on February 4th and noted my weight every morning. I'm only a semi-serious dieter, but I have a salad for lunch just about every day, eat a lot fewer carbohydrates, avoid taking second helpings and mostly skip deserts. But I still feel the need for some sort of snack every day about 4:00 in the afternoon. I'm about ready to do something more drastic to finally hit my weight goal. But I need to keep it off for at least two weeks before I'll even consider easing up. For me, exercise has made less of a difference than diet, but I'm back doing the YMCA stuff again and that might make the difference on those last three pounds.

    Here's a chart showing my progress for the first month or so with notes about how I felt about it: https://i.imgur.com/E8FKmou.jpg Note the points of discouragement and encouragement. Note also that it varies by two to three pounds naturally, so I don't take it personally when I'm up by two one day.

    I'll be rooting for you. Hang in there and share your feelings about your progress.
    I was 202 lbs at the beginning of March. I rarely weigh myself and that was a shock. The problem I have with dieting is I go extreme and then just go down in flames. But something was different this time. I cut out about 800 calories a day and do 24 hour fasts twice a week. I lost 17 lbs after a month. But I maintained at 185 for 3 weeks because I looked terrible. Now I'm back at it. I'll take a break for a few months once I hit 175. I think the healthiest weight for me is somewhere around 165. But I have been miserable throughout the whole process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USUC View Post
    But I have been miserable throughout the whole process.
    My way hasn't been "miserable", so I'm thankful for that. But the weight does not come off quickly. And as I've already mentioned, it looks like some of the changes to my diet will have to continue for the rest of my life.

    It seems that exercise and diet changes need to be permanent for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copelius View Post
    Bo got me thinking pretty seriously about getting back into a uniform. Sitting 258 right now and needing to get to 186 by next February. I have run a couple calculators and I will be right up against it to get 20 good years by age 60, but it'll give me something to shoot for. I will check in every week or so to give myself some accountability. Let's see if I can get it done.
    You go! You can do it.
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    Well, I appreciate all the kind words of encouragement, but in my further research into getting back in I have read that people like me and Wilford Brimley can't get into the Army. So much for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copelius View Post
    Well, I appreciate all the kind words of encouragement, but in my further research into getting back in I have read that people like me and Wilford Brimley can't get into the Army. So much for that.

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    That's too bad. Even if the Army wont have you, I've read that it can be reversed with diet and exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    That's too bad. Even if the Army wont have you, I've read that it can be reversed with diet and exercise.
    Yip. My A1C is back down to where my doctor isn't concerned. If I can keep it dropping, I'll no longer even be in the prediabetes range.
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    This morning I'm down 20. I'm thinking 10-21 more to go, but that all depends on how much muscle mass I gain in the meantime.

    I'm still mainly reducing caloric intake, but not as strictly as at first. I've also upped the cardio now that my Achilles tendons are getting past all the reconstructive nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    This morning I'm down 20. I'm thinking 10-21 more to go, but that all depends on how much muscle mass I gain in the meantime.

    I'm still mainly reducing caloric intake, but not as strictly as at first. I've also upped the cardio now that my Achilles tendons are getting past all the reconstructive nonsense.
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