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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    So now there's nothing left in the WoW that is correct??
    Tobacco & alcohol are still bad for you!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Tobacco & alcohol are still bad for you!!!
    Pffft. Just until more science comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Pffft. Just until more science comes out.
    Haha.

    I guess this red meat study is causing outrage among some nutritionists.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...ead-to-outrage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Tobacco & alcohol are still bad for you!!!
    Just tobacco. And more nasty reports coming out about vaping every day!

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    By the way, I'm down 30 pounds by following The Obesity Code principles. I need to go down another 30 before I consider myself a BigButMuchLessFatMeanie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    By the way, I'm down 30 pounds by following The Obesity Code principles. I need to go down another 30 before I consider myself a BigButMuchLessFatMeanie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    By the way, I'm down 30 pounds by following The Obesity Code principles. I need to go down another 30 before I consider myself a BigButMuchLessFatMeanie.
    That's awesome. What, exactly, are you doing? Daily fast plus no sugar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    That's awesome. What, exactly, are you doing? Daily fast plus no sugar?
    Significantly reduced sugar - I allow myself 1 treat a week, usually Sunday dessert. Although this week I cheated and had another slice of homemade raspberry pie yesterday which was left over from Sunday.

    Significantly reduced refined/processed carbs - Eliminate chips, crackers, etc. For example, the other day my wife was having smoked salmon and cream cheese on Triscuits. I wanted some but instead put the smoked salmon and cream cheese on a slice of lettuce.

    Moderate unprocessed carbs - I allow myself one "potato dish" a week (fries, mashed potatoes, tots, etc.). I try to eat brown rice instead of white when possible. I look for lower-carb pastas like chickpea pasta. I try and substitute zoodles (zucchini) for spaghetti or linguini, etc.

    Try to avoid snacking. If I do have a snack I try to have things that aren't too carby - olives, nuts, cheese, tuna, etc.

    Skip 1-2 meals a week. I don't do daily fasting. I usually skip 1 dinner a week, usually Thursday nights, and 1 breakfast a week, usually on Sunday. I like skipping dinner instead of skipping breakfast because I almost never overeat at breakfast but it's very easy for me to overeat at dinner. I assume I'll plateau here eventually and if so then I might move closer to daily fasting but right now I'm only skipping 1-2 meals a week.

    I've been doing this for about 6 months now and I feel like it's pretty sustainable. I don't track or measure my carb intake but I do look at stuff to see how carby it is. I don't track or measure calories.

    I have good intentions to exercise more and try to go walking with my wife or doing some light strength training, but I'm pretty spotty at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Just tobacco. And more nasty reports coming out about vaping every day!
    Dude, stop being so anti-science! Alcohol is definitely bad for you.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...310-2/fulltext

    Alcohol use is a leading risk factor for global disease burden and causes substantial health loss. We found that the risk of all-cause mortality, and of cancers specifically, rises with increasing levels of consumption, and the level of consumption that minimises health loss is zero. These results suggest that alcohol control policies might need to be revised worldwide, refocusing on efforts to lower overall population-level consumption.


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    I am using some of the obesity code principles. No sugar (meaning no desserts, etc) M-F. I allow myself to indulge on Saturday, particularly if there is a game at LES. Very limited snacking between meals; a protein bar or veggies if anything. Intermittent fasting, but no as strict as I want. Typically I fast from 8 pm to about 1100 am.

    For exercise, I have been swimming 3-4 days a week since my knees got effed up in my marathon. The last month I have mixed in heavy (for me) chest and arm weight work.

    Result of all of it is I'm down 20 pounds from my pre-marathon high but my body fat % is down significantly from where I was even on race day back in may. End goal is 10-15 more pounds. I feel pretty good and am trying to make my goal by thanksgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    I am using some of the obesity code principles. No sugar (meaning no desserts, etc) M-F. I allow myself to indulge on Saturday, particularly if there is a game at LES. Very limited snacking between meals; a protein bar or veggies if anything. Intermittent fasting, but no as strict as I want. Typically I fast from 8 pm to about 1100 am.

    For exercise, I have been swimming 3-4 days a week since my knees got effed up in my marathon. The last month I have mixed in heavy (for me) chest and arm weight work.

    Result of all of it is I'm down 20 pounds from my pre-marathon high but my body fat % is down significantly from where I was even on race day back in may. End goal is 10-15 more pounds. I feel pretty good and am trying to make my goal by thanksgiving.
    Nice work. I, too, follow at least some of the Code's recommendations with good results, although I've slipped a little the past month or so. Technically, I'm fasting 20+ hours a day, just not consecutively...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Nice work. I, too, follow at least some of the Code's recommendations with good results, although I've slipped a little the past month or so. Technically, I'm fasting 20+ hours a day, just not consecutively...
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    Just finishing week 4 of intermittent fasting. I have doing the 16/8 schedule, eating typically between 11am and 7pm. I've also been counting calories on MyFitnessPal, with the target set at losing a pound a week. I've been pretty good about my diet for 5 days a week. On Friday and Saturday, I still typically follow 16/8 schedule, but my calorie count often goes above my target.

    The first two weeks were pretty miserable between the hours of 8-11am. Third week things started to get a little more tolerable. This week, my belly hasn't typically started to get too grumpy until about 10:00 or 10:30 am.

    So far I'm dropping close to a pound a week, with about 4 down so far as of this morning. I would love to hit 12 pounds total.

    I was a little concerned about energy levels with the new schedule, but it really hasn't been an issue. I typically exercise for 30-40 minutes of weights or cardio at home in the morning before work, and then do a little more substantial workout on Tuesday and Thursday afternoon. Saturday is usually a long bike ride. My energy has been good for the most part, both during the work day and during exercise.

    I read The Obesity Code and much of it made sense. I'm curious to see if this new "diet" will be sustainable or not for me. I've always been a big breakfast eater.

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    I started OMAD IF this week. I eat dinner with the family usually between 6-8. I am surprised at how easy it has been. My plan is to stay on it until Thanksgiving and see how I feel then. So far so good.
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    I found a healthy way to eat chocolate. Peel a mandarin orange, and break a Hershey's milk chocolate bar into squares. Put one square on top of on section of orange, and eat together. Good for the heart; good for the soul. You're welcome.

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    I do the same thing, except without the orange.
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    I do the same thing, but not Hershey's. Give me something good, like Lindt or Chocolove or maybe Dove.

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    Started a new diet this week. Actually, this the first time I've ever formally been on a diet. I would have started it a month ago, but I just got back from two weeks on a cruise ship and didn't want to be watching my food intake with all of the good stuff available to eat. I didn't gain any weight compared to before getting on the ship, though.

    All I'm doing for this diet is smaller portions, salads for lunch, and limit the carbohydrates I eat. And generally avoiding snacks in between meals. I'm trying to write down everything that I eat, so that helps me avoid that cookie or corn chip when I'm craving them. I'm also writing down my weight each morning, mainly so I can see if I'm making long term progress. I know that day to day my weight can vary by 2-3 pounds, so no big deal if I'm up a couple of pounds over the previous day.

    I'll report back here if this actually works.

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    As of today I'm down five pounds from when I started this diet. I have now reached the weight that I had hoped to never get above. Reminds me of the old joke: "My New Years resolution is to lose 10 pounds - just 15 more to go".

    I'm still aiming to be down ten more by summer.

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    Keep working at it!

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    Interesting article on the benefits of intermittent fasting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/w...rds=auddevgate

    I've been thinking of trying it out and this is encouraging. It'll be tough to give up breakfast though (my favorite meal of the day).

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    Quote Originally Posted by UVACoug View Post
    Interesting article on the benefits of intermittent fasting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/w...rds=auddevgate

    I've been thinking of trying it out and this is encouraging. It'll be tough to give up breakfast though (my favorite meal of the day).
    You could fast during dinner, eating breakfast and lunch instead.

    Or, just eat your typical breakfast foods for dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UVACoug View Post
    Interesting article on the benefits of intermittent fasting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/w...rds=auddevgate

    I've been thinking of trying it out and this is encouraging. It'll be tough to give up breakfast though (my favorite meal of the day).
    Eat breakfast at noon. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UVACoug View Post
    Interesting article on the benefits of intermittent fasting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/w...rds=auddevgate

    I've been thinking of trying it out and this is encouraging. It'll be tough to give up breakfast though (my favorite meal of the day).
    I love breakfast as well. When JL started talking about IF in the last year or two I thought that there was no way I could ever skip breakfast. That I would be starving the entire day. I heavily believed that breakfast was the "most important meal of the day." Even when I woke up at 5:30am to play bball, I had to have at least a protein shake or something to not feel hunger.

    My wife and my oldest are the opposite. They almost never eat breakfast and I would kind of chide my daughter that it wasn't healthy to skip breakfast, especially as a diabetic.

    Now, I am so used to not eating breakfast I don't even think about it. I never eat lunch, either. I only feel hungry as I'm walking through the front door after work and I smell what's cooking for dinner. It's weird but easy to maintain a healthy weight when you only eat one meal per day.

    My biggest problem is that I use my daily fasting to justify snacking a bunch between dinner and bed. But my overall calories are pretty low still so I'm not too bothered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Student View Post
    I love breakfast as well. When JL started talking about IF in the last year or two I thought that there was no way I could ever skip breakfast. That I would be starving the entire day. I heavily believed that breakfast was the "most important meal of the day." Even when I woke up at 5:30am to play bball, I had to have at least a protein shake or something to not feel hunger.

    My wife and my oldest are the opposite. They almost never eat breakfast and I would kind of chide my daughter that it wasn't healthy to skip breakfast, especially as a diabetic.

    Now, I am so used to not eating breakfast I don't even think about it. I never eat lunch, either. I only feel hungry as I'm walking through the front door after work and I smell what's cooking for dinner. It's weird but easy to maintain a healthy weight when you only eat one meal per day.

    My biggest problem is that I use my daily fasting to justify snacking a bunch between dinner and bed. But my overall calories are pretty low still so I'm not too bothered.
    Before my surgery, I used to wait until I got home from work to eat anything, because once I ate, I was ravenous until I went to sleep. I could eat a feast and be starving in about an hour. That's the best part of the surgery, that only happens now if don't eat enough protein for consecutive days in a row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Student View Post
    I love breakfast as well. When JL started talking about IF in the last year or two I thought that there was no way I could ever skip breakfast. That I would be starving the entire day. I heavily believed that breakfast was the "most important meal of the day." Even when I woke up at 5:30am to play bball, I had to have at least a protein shake or something to not feel hunger.

    My wife and my oldest are the opposite. They almost never eat breakfast and I would kind of chide my daughter that it wasn't healthy to skip breakfast, especially as a diabetic.

    Now, I am so used to not eating breakfast I don't even think about it. I never eat lunch, either. I only feel hungry as I'm walking through the front door after work and I smell what's cooking for dinner. It's weird but easy to maintain a healthy weight when you only eat one meal per day.

    My biggest problem is that I use my daily fasting to justify snacking a bunch between dinner and bed. But my overall calories are pretty low still so I'm not too bothered.
    Same here.
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    I thought this is worth sharing here.

    https://www.1843magazine.com/feature...of-the-calorie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    I thought this is worth sharing here.

    https://www.1843magazine.com/feature...of-the-calorie
    That was an interesting read. Thanks for that. This made an impression on me:

    The process of storing fat – the “weight” many people seek to lose – is influenced by dozens of other factors. Apart from calories, our genes, the trillions of bacteria that live in our gut, food preparation and sleep affect how we process food. Academic discussions of food and nutrition are littered with references to huge bodies of research that still need to be conducted. “No other field of science or medicine sees such a lack of rigorous studies,” says Tim Spector, a professor of genetic epidemiology at Kings College in London. “We can create synthetic DNA and clone animals but we still know incredibly little about the stuff that keeps us alive.”
    What we do know, however, suggests that counting calories is very crude and often misleading. Think of a burger, the kind of food that Camacho eschewed during his early efforts to lose weight. Take a bite and the saliva in your mouth starts to break it down, a process that continues when you swallow, transporting the morsel towards your stomach and beyond to be churned further. The digestive process transforms the protein, carbohydrates and fat in the burger into their basic compounds so that they are tiny enough to be absorbed into the bloodstream via the small intestine to fuel and repair the trillions of cells in the body. But the basic molecules from each macronutrient play very different roles within the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UVACoug View Post
    Interesting article on the benefits of intermittent fasting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/w...rds=auddevgate

    I've been thinking of trying it out and this is encouraging. It'll be tough to give up breakfast though (my favorite meal of the day).
    i've been doing IF for 5 years now and i think somebody suggested it, but i love breakfast foods too, just eat them for dinner. best thing about IF for me is that it works and i've been able to sustain the "diet".
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    i've been doing IF for 5 years now and i think somebody suggested it, but i love breakfast foods too, just eat them for dinner. best thing about IF for me is that it works and i've been able to sustain the "diet".
    I've decided that IF is the best way for me to reduce calories. I'd rather have one really good meal that I really enjoy than have 3 smaller meals that take and edge off but don't really satisfy because not one of them has enough calories in it to really get full by eating stuff I like eating.

    It was hard at first - like maybe the first 3-4 weeks - but I never get hungry before noon anymore, and most of the time I'm really not hungry until later into the afternoon or evening.

    Most Friday mornings I'll play early morning basketball with some guys at a gym that is close to my office. I used to be so hungry when we got done that I'd have something in the car to eat after or sometimes I'd even stop at McD's on my way to work and grab a couple of breakfast burritos or something. I honestly could not make it without eating after playing. Now I can play for a couple of hours and still go without eating until lunch - or maybe even wait until dinner.

    I have no formal method for doing the IF. I haven't read the Obesity Code like some of you - so maybe this is wrong - but I figure that the random/variable nature of some of what I do is maybe a good thing? I always skip breakfast. Sometimes I'll also skip lunch (if I know we're going out or having a big dinner later like yesterday, especially) but sometimes I don't. A couple of weeks ago I talked to someone who was doing a 48 hour fast for some reason, so I decided to try it and do it with them just to see how long I could go or if I'd get hungry - and it was actually much easier than I thought it would be.

    I remember when I was a kid - coming home on Fast Sunday and passing out on the couch until it was time to eat (which was usually 2-3pm) because I just didn't have enough energy to do ANYTHING since I hadn't eaten all day. Now - I know I've got a lot more "energy storage" I'm packing around in my body these days, but it makes me chuckle to remember.

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