2018 mid-term elections thread

[frank ryan]

Someone other than the politicians that have a vested interest in the shape and makeup of the districts.

I am totally open to the possibility that I may be missing something regarding this proposition, but this seemed like the biggest no-brainer on the ballot.

It was unless you’re a GOP apparatchik

[Uncle Ted]

Who would you prefer do the gerrymandering?

The Libertarians, of course.

[wapiti]

Someone other than the politicians that have a vested interest in the shape and makeup of the districts.

I am totally open to the possibility that I may be missing something regarding this proposition, but this seemed like the biggest no-brainer on the ballot.

1) "No" voters understand that the proposition is simply a ploy by democrats to get a safe congressional seat.
2) There is a good chance that the proposition really requires an amendment to the Utah constitution.
3) The $1,000,000 fiscal note attached to the proposition and listed on the ballot probably hurt.

[Mr Bean]

1) "No" voters understand that the proposition is simply a ploy by democrats to get a safe congressional seat.
2) There is a good chance that the proposition really requires an amendment to the Utah constitution.
3) The $1,000,000 fiscal note attached to the proposition and listed on the ballot probably hurt.

Isn't the status quo a ploy by Republicans to retain safe congressional seats?

Dilly Dilly

[Babs]

I know a number of Californians that are moving to Texas, Idaho and Arizona. Not a single one that I know will tilt the scale there even a little bit from red to blue.

Good. The stake will be relieved to hear that.

[wapiti]

Isn't the status quo a ploy by Republicans to retain safe congressional seats?

Dilly Dilly

Of course. But it's also the way the state constitution mandates that it be done.

[Uncle Ted]

Not off to a good start...

Kyrsten Sinema reneges on her pledge to spurn Chuck Schumer

Here is candidate Kyrsten Sinema in July, on Chuck Schumer’s future as Senate minority leader: “I am not going to vote for him,” she flatly told Politco.


Well, here is Sinema on Wednesday, shortly after Schumer was re-elected Senate minority leader by acclamation. Nobody objected.
[...]
Not a great start, senator.


If you can't keep this rather simple and straightforward promise then....

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...er/2004456002/

[Eddie]

Love this article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/o...r-the-gop.html

My party would be wise to take a step back from President Trump’s approach to politics. We should renew our commitment to tenets like environmental conservation and financial responsibility. We should run from the president’s zero-sum approach to politics.

These are not revolutionary ideas. But adhering to the simple approaches of kindness and respect, principles that have long guided society, could these days be groundbreaking.

- Mark Sanford, outgoing Republican Rep from South Carolina.

[Walter Sobchak]

Abandon President Trump's zero-sum approach to politics? Lolz. Give credit where credit is due. Start with Gingrich and Rove. President Trump isn't breaking new ground... just using a bulldozer instead of a ditch witch.

[YOhio]

I don't like her politics, but she makes me laugh.

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[USUC]

The Libertarians, of course.

This is the right answer. The libertarian solution to gerrymandering is creating districts via a blinded panel. Only population is to be considered, not the past voting behavior of the communities.

[frank ryan]

Not off to a good start...


https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...er/2004456002/

Have fun with your indignation. I thought you didn’t care about politicians misleading voters as evidenced by your love of Trump.

[frank ryan]

This is the right answer. The libertarian solution to gerrymandering is creating districts via a blinded panel. Only population is to be considered, not the past voting behavior of the communities.

That’d be fine. The proposition results are still a step in the right direction.

[Applejack]

This is the right answer. The libertarian solution to gerrymandering is creating districts via a blinded panel. Only population is to be considered, not the past voting behavior of the communities.

Isn't the libertarian solution to everything "let the market decide?"

[Uncle Ted]

Have fun with your indignation. I thought you didn’t care about politicians misleading voters as evidenced by your love of Trump.

Love of Drumpf?... That SoB hasn't built the wall like he has promised!