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    I didn’t expect Medicaid exspanion to pass. I’ll be curious to see what legislature does to try and derail it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    The senate was never in the cards. Democrats were defending 18 seats and the GOP only 8. The dems also picked up several Governorships, including Wisoncisn’s. It was not a blue tsunami but it was a blue wave.
    One would think that $70 million would buy a senate seat in even in Texas. Money doesn't buy much these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    The senate was never in the cards. Democrats were defending 18 seats and the GOP only 8. The dems also picked up several Governorships, including Wisoncisnís. It was not a blue tsunami but it was a blue wave.
    It was a mixed bag for the democrats and republicans. However, the overwhelming winner of the midterms was Mary Jane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    The senate was never in the cards. Democrats were defending 18 seats and the GOP only 8. The dems also picked up several Governorships, including Wisoncisnís. It was not a blue tsunami but it was a blue wave.
    The Senate was absolutely in play and was probably going to go blue before the Boxer circus. Most likely the Republicans will have 53 senators. Nelson, McCaskill, Heitkamp, and Donnelly are all dems who went down for siding with Boxer. Manchin saved himself by voting to confirm. Looks like Tester will survive despite a no vote.

    Without the Kavenaugh effect it is very possible that Cruz goes down and Flake's seat goes blue as well.

    Verdict: no blue wave due to self inflicted wounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    One would think that $70 million would buy a senate seat in even in Texas. Money doesn't buy much these days.
    Especially against Ted Cruz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    The Senate was absolutely in play and was probably going to go blue before the Boxer circus. Most likely the Republicans will have 53 senators. Nelson, McCaskill, Heitkamp, and Donnelly are all dems who went down for siding with Boxer. Manchin saved himself by voting to confirm. Looks like Tester will survive despite a no vote.

    Without the Kavenaugh effect it is very possible that Cruz goes down and Flake's seat goes blue as well.

    Verdict: no blue wave due to self inflicted wounds.

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    Both political parties are good at self-inflicted wounds. I agree the dems could have had a better night without the Kavanaugh debacle. But if there is corruption and illegal activity in the executive branch it can at least be made transparent now through the House. Then when it's uncovered, what millions of repubs do with that is another issue, but I'm good with the results last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    The Senate was absolutely in play and was probably going to go blue before the Boxer circus. Most likely the Republicans will have 53 senators. Nelson, McCaskill, Heitkamp, and Donnelly are all dems who went down for siding with Boxer. Manchin saved himself by voting to confirm. Looks like Tester will survive despite a no vote.

    Without the Kavenaugh effect it is very possible that Cruz goes down and Flake's seat goes blue as well.

    Verdict: no blue wave due to self inflicted wounds.

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    I disagree, from fairly early on the odds were not good. In places like North Dakota that Trump carries by 36 percentage points, I donít think a yes on Labanaugh vote would have mattered, although it didnít help. I think Donnelly was most hurt by his vote.

    There also other interesting occurrences like the dems winning control of the New York State Senate for the 1st time in decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    The Senate was absolutely in play and was probably going to go blue before the Boxer circus. Most likely the Republicans will have 53 senators. Nelson, McCaskill, Heitkamp, and Donnelly are all dems who went down for siding with Boxer. Manchin saved himself by voting to confirm. Looks like Tester will survive despite a no vote.

    Without the Kavenaugh effect it is very possible that Cruz goes down and Flake's seat goes blue as well.

    Verdict: no blue wave due to self inflicted wounds.

    The Kavanaugh thing was not only very damaging to the Dems but to women in general... Now an accuser admits to fabricating her story about Kavanaugh. So I guess it is important to have due process. The sexual misconduct card may be much harder to play for the dems in the next two years of judge appointments.
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    People ask Trump about how he can lower the political temperature (in light of recent killings) how he can be a moral leader and how he can heal the divide in this country and he launches into a speech about how well the economy is doing.

    The dude never fails to disappoint in his role as a purely materialistic, self-aggrandizing fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Trump just said that Mia Love lost because she didnít accept Trumpís help in the campaign. Trump threw in a weird reference to Josh Holt being held hostage in Venezuela.
    Did she get "help" from Obama instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    That's good. I always vote no on all the judges anyway.
    Thatís a retention vote, which most states have. Texas has partisan races for the judiciary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    One would think that $70 million would buy a senate seat in even in Texas. Money doesn't buy much these days.
    It bought him the democratic presidential nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    I disagree, from fairly early on the odds were not good. In places like North Dakota that Trump carries by 36 percentage points, I don’t think a yes on Labanaugh vote would have mattered, although it didn’t help. I think Donnelly was most hurt by his vote.

    There also other interesting occurrences like the dems winning control of the New York State Senate for the 1st time in decades.
    You won't find any credible political analyst calling this a blue wave. The number of house seats that switched away from the president is below average for a mid-term. If McSalley holds on in AZ, republicans will have won 6 of the 8 hotly contested senate seats (and within 5000 votes of a 7th). Dems made some moderate gains at the state level after getting destroyed there for the past 8 years.

    The Scott Walker loss was due to local issues related to his deal to bring in a massive FoxConn factory. Even with that debacle he only lost by 1%.

    The election was a mixed bag that moved the needle a bit toward the dems. Obviously, flipping the house is a big deal, I don't want to understate that. But given the beating trump has taken the last two years, I think he's right to declare victory. Everywhere he campaigned he was a big boost to the candidate he was there for. And going +3 in the senate is a nice move that will set republicans up to keep the senate in 2020 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    I disagree, from fairly early on the odds were not good. In places like North Dakota that Trump carries by 36 percentage points, I don’t think a yes on Labanaugh vote would have mattered, although it didn’t help. I think Donnelly was most hurt by his vote.

    There also other interesting occurrences like the dems winning control of the New York State Senate for the 1st time in decades.
    You're kidding yourself. The Kavanaugh debacle was a HUGE error by DiFi and the other dems. They went through all that effort, spent all those political resources, focused all that pre-election energy on Kavanaugh and, in the end, Kavanaugh is on the court and they don't gain the senate, which might have been in play otherwise. Nice job there, Dems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    People ask Trump about how he can lower the political temperature (in light of recent killings) how he can be a moral leader and how he can heal the divide in this country and he launches into a speech about how well the economy is doing.

    The dude never fails to disappoint in his role as a purely materialistic, self-aggrandizing fool.
    I listened to a portion of his presser. He was asked what he learned from the election given that he lost the house and the democrats advanced in many state races. His response? Something close to: "I learned that most people like me a lot, and like the job I am doing." My guess is that would be his honest response no matter what happened in the election.
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    I just realized I said Barbara Boxer instead of Diane Feinstein in a couple posts above.

    They're kind of the same right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
    It bought him the democratic presidential nomination.
    Yes indeed... ask Alyssa Milano!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    I just realized I said Barbara Boxer instead of Diane Feinstein in a couple posts above.

    They're kind of the same right?

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    Yeah, they are the same person... Maybe California should only have one senator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    I just realized I said Barbara Boxer instead of Diane Feinstein in a couple posts above.

    They're kind of the same right?

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    We knew what you meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
    That’s a retention vote, which most states have. Texas has partisan races for the judiciary.
    Whoa, that is crazy. I don't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    Whoa, that is crazy. I don't like that.
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    Local elections results for the school board.

    As of the preliminary results last night the difference between the 3rd and 5th place in the race was 7 votes (323, 320, 316). Top 3 get a seat on the board. I remember when we voted in our Superior court judge about 10 years ago. The winner won by 12 votes. Fun to be in a small community where your votes actually count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    Local elections results for the school board.

    As of the preliminary results last night the difference between the 3rd and 5th place in the race was 7 votes (323, 320, 316). Top 3 get a seat on the board. I remember when we voted in our Superior court judge about 10 years ago. The winner won by 12 votes. Fun to be in a small community where your votes actually count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    I always vote no on all the judges anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    I listened to a portion of his presser. He was asked what he learned from the election given that he lost the house and the democrats advanced in many state races. His response? Something close to: "I learned that most people like me a lot, and like the job I am doing." My guess is that would be his honest response no matter what happened in the election.
    I listened for a bit but initially thought it was a broadcast of some junior high school teacher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    Local elections results for the school board.

    As of the preliminary results last night the difference between the 3rd and 5th place in the race was 7 votes (323, 320, 316). Top 3 get a seat on the board. I remember when we voted in our Superior court judge about 10 years ago. The winner won by 12 votes. Fun to be in a small community where your votes actually count.
    Your vote didn't count. Even if you hadn't voted, the difference would have been a victory by 13 or 11 votes, but the same outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    You're kidding yourself. The Kavanaugh debacle was a HUGE error by DiFi and the other dems. They went through all that effort, spent all those political resources, focused all that pre-election energy on Kavanaugh and, in the end, Kavanaugh is on the court and they don't gain the senate, which might have been in play otherwise. Nice job there, Dems.
    I think it probably netted the GOP a total of 3 seats -- which was their exact gain. Without the Kavanaugh debacle, I think the GOP loses Arizona and fail to pick up a seat in Florida. ND was going to the GOP regardless and the GOP had a really strong candidate in Missouri, so I don't think the Kavanaugh confirmation mess affected those. The only remaining question is whether the Democrats ever really had chance in Indiana and Tennessee. The Democrats had a former governor running TN and Donnelly appeared to be neck and neck with the GOP candidate. Donnelly lost by 7 points, so a swing of 4 points would have saved him. Blackburn, however, won by 11 points.

    While I understand the guy in Missouri also only won by 7 points, McCaskill had a significantly better operation than Donnelly and has been effective in the past at getting her voters to the polls.
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    Not really an election result, but related: Jeff Sessions has been sacked.

    President Donald Trump on Wednesday fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

    "At your request I am submitting my resignation," Sessions wrote in a letter to White House chief of staff John Kelly.
    Matthew Whitaker will take over as acting attorney general, the President said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/polit...ign/index.html
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    Local results are fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Not really an election result, but related: Jeff Sessions has been sacked.



    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/polit...ign/index.html

    Interesting... I wonder who is next.

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