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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    Someone other than the politicians that have a vested interest in the shape and makeup of the districts.

    I am totally open to the possibility that I may be missing something regarding this proposition, but this seemed like the biggest no-brainer on the ballot.
    It was unless you’re a GOP apparatchik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Who would you prefer do the gerrymandering?
    The Libertarians, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    Someone other than the politicians that have a vested interest in the shape and makeup of the districts.

    I am totally open to the possibility that I may be missing something regarding this proposition, but this seemed like the biggest no-brainer on the ballot.
    1) "No" voters understand that the proposition is simply a ploy by democrats to get a safe congressional seat.
    2) There is a good chance that the proposition really requires an amendment to the Utah constitution.
    3) The $1,000,000 fiscal note attached to the proposition and listed on the ballot probably hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    1) "No" voters understand that the proposition is simply a ploy by democrats to get a safe congressional seat.
    2) There is a good chance that the proposition really requires an amendment to the Utah constitution.
    3) The $1,000,000 fiscal note attached to the proposition and listed on the ballot probably hurt.
    Isn't the status quo a ploy by Republicans to retain safe congressional seats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    I know a number of Californians that are moving to Texas, Idaho and Arizona. Not a single one that I know will tilt the scale there even a little bit from red to blue.
    Good. The stake will be relieved to hear that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    Isn't the status quo a ploy by Republicans to retain safe congressional seats?

    Dilly Dilly
    Of course. But it's also the way the state constitution mandates that it be done.

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    Not off to a good start...

    Kyrsten Sinema reneges on her pledge to spurn Chuck Schumer

    Here is candidate Kyrsten Sinema in July, on Chuck Schumer’s future as Senate minority leader: “I am not going to vote for him,” she flatly told Politco.


    Well, here is Sinema on Wednesday, shortly after Schumer was re-elected Senate minority leader by acclamation. Nobody objected.
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    Not a great start, senator.


    If you can't keep this rather simple and straightforward promise then....
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...er/2004456002/
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    Love this article:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/o...r-the-gop.html

    My party would be wise to take a step back from President Trump’s approach to politics. We should renew our commitment to tenets like environmental conservation and financial responsibility. We should run from the president’s zero-sum approach to politics.

    These are not revolutionary ideas. But adhering to the simple approaches of kindness and respect, principles that have long guided society, could these days be groundbreaking.


    - Mark Sanford, outgoing Republican Rep from South Carolina.

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    Abandon President Trump's zero-sum approach to politics? Lolz. Give credit where credit is due. Start with Gingrich and Rove. President Trump isn't breaking new ground... just using a bulldozer instead of a ditch witch.
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