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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Speaking of changes to the missionary program, this is from a weekly email from one of you former YSA students. The church is testing a program where missionaries wear normal clothing, no name tags, and go by first names.
    Just yesterday I saw two young men crossing the street. They both wore khakis, very similar-appearing casual dress shirts, and black backpacks. No nametags. I wondered if they were two missionaries, but I thought better of it then. Maybe they were!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Just yesterday I saw two young men crossing the street. They both wore khakis, very similar-appearing casual dress shirts, and black backpacks. No nametags. I wondered if they were two missionaries, but I thought better of it then. Maybe they were!
    Hey. I forgot to mention that this sister is serving in Portland!
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    I was promptly trained not to wear my name tag on my mission, but to present it when introducing myself as a missionary. It would rest just inside that outside pocket ready for me to flash my credentials as needed. We always wore them to meetings and official functions as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Hey. I forgot to mention that this sister is serving in Portland!
    That would be a separate mission. But right next door.

    If it is them, I'll have to give them some fashion advice. The color was a nice touch, but they still looked way too similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Hey. I forgot to mention that this sister is serving in Portland!
    We've got two sister missionaries in our ward... now I'll have to learn their names and report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBlue View Post
    Had a kid in my ward years ago who could've used an online option. He was a stud baseball player and had been drafted by the Dodgers out of HS. He chose to serve a mission and his mother was furious, she wasn't churchgoing and she wanted a him in the bigs someday. The kid worked all day while waiting for his call to come and his mom was always home and got the mail each day. She ripped it up and never told him about it. SP finally called SLC and had them resend. She ripped it up and never told him about it. I can't remember if they finally just told him over the phone, but he served in Brazil, just went later than he'd planned.
    Good intentions by the mother, but poor execution. Her son was an adult. She can tell him he is making a horrible mistake, but ultimately he gets to make that mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    Good intentions by the mother, but poor execution. Her son was an adult. She can tell him he is making a horrible mistake, but ultimately he gets to make that mistake.
    Or she could have behaved like an adult herself. When I told my dad I wanted to go on a mission. He responded with, ď I donít understand it, but I know itís important to you. I saw the good it did for your brother. If thatís what you want to do, Iíll support you in it.Ē

    But feel free to use the passive-aggressive guilt approach with your kids. I can tell you from personal (and sad) experience how it usually works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    Good intentions by the mother, but poor execution. Her son was an adult. She can tell him he is making a horrible mistake, but ultimately he gets to make that mistake.
    What were the good intentions again? To control her adult son's life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    Good intentions by the mother, but poor execution. Her son was an adult. She can tell him he is making a horrible mistake, but ultimately he gets to make that mistake.
    Honestly, in her case I don't even think she knew what a mission was except that he'd be gone for two years. She just didn't want him to leave her. She was an alcoholic and had been increasingly sick and was using him to cope day to day where she was starting to fail. Typical guilting and selfishness that goes with that territory.

    I'd actually forgotten another frustrating part of this story. He found out that I knew Jeremy Guthrie's family and as you might imagine he was a big fan of Guthrie, having a similar back story. I told him I'd talk to Jeremy's dad and see if I could have Jeremy talk with this kid about having given up baseball and some big money to serve first. I got it all set up, but this was in the days before everyone had cells. Jeremy called the landline and the mother would always say he wasn't there. I believe he tried several times but never did get to talk to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBlue View Post
    Honestly, in her case I don't even think she knew what a mission was except that he'd be gone for two years. She just didn't want him to leave her. She was an alcoholic and had been increasingly sick and was using him to cope day to day where she was starting to fail. Typical guilting and selfishness that goes with that territory.

    I'd actually forgotten another frustrating part of this story. He found out that I knew Jeremy Guthrie's family and as you might imagine he was a big fan of Guthrie, having a similar back story. I told him I'd talk to Jeremy's dad and see if I could have Jeremy talk with this kid about having given up baseball and some big money to serve first. I got it all set up, but this was in the days before everyone had cells. Jeremy called the landline and the mother would always say he wasn't there. I believe he tried several times but never did get to talk to him.
    Wow. That is sad.
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    I don't know if this is true, but I've heard that the white shirt and dark pants/suit requirement was actually implemented to help us to look more mainstream and normal, but as fashion trends became more casual, it was then seen as a way to stand out. Could be hogwash, but if you've ever seen the stands in a 1950s era baseball game, it's a sea of white shirts and ties.

    I find the nametag worship to be strange. I think I mentioned this in one of the "Random Thoughts" threads, but I just don't get it. I remember being sad when I wasn't Elder Monstah anymore, and I was very proud of the nametag I had, but it looks ridiculous to wear all white baptismal clothes with a goofy black nametag or to clip them to P-day clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I don't know if this is true, but I've heard that the white shirt and dark pants/suit requirement was actually implemented to help us to look more mainstream and normal, but as fashion trends became more casual, it was then seen as a way to stand out. Could be hogwash, but if you've ever seen the stands in a 1950s era baseball game, it's a sea of white shirts and ties.

    I find the nametag worship to be strange. I think I mentioned this in one of the "Random Thoughts" threads, but I just don't get it. I remember being sad when I wasn't Elder Monstah anymore, and I was very proud of the nametag I had, but it looks ridiculous to wear all white baptismal clothes with a goofy black nametag or to clip them to P-day clothes.
    You baptized with your nametags on? I'm really asking.

    As for the p-day tags, I agree it looks stupid. But I'm guessing that its more about reminding these young men and women that they are still representatives of the Lord, even when they are dressed like normal 18-21 year olds, than it is about anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    You baptized with your nametags on? I'm really asking.

    As for the p-day tags, I agree it looks stupid. But I'm guessing that its more about reminding these young men and women that they are still representatives of the Lord, even when they are dressed like normal 18-21 year olds, than it is about anything else.
    I didn't, but in the emails I get from missionaries in the field, they all sport their tags in the baptismal clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I didn't, but in the emails I get from missionaries in the field, they all sport their tags in the baptismal clothes.
    Weird.
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    More Missionary changes today:

    https://ksltv.com/403657/latter-day-...unces-changes/

    all missionary candidates, no matter their health concerns, will be able to use the missionary online recommendation process. Those who canít serve in a proselyting capacity will be assigned as a ďservice missionary.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    That is fantastic news. Very happy to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    This was awesome, but I'm not sure how I feel about some of the service missions:

    Elder Horne returned from the California San Fernando Mission earlier this year because of a health issue. He now serves as a missionary in the Church’s Publishing Services Department, providing technical and user support for the Gospel Library app.

    “It’s the service to the Lord that matters,” said Elder Horne.

    Sister Carmen Juarez, 24, from Provo, Utah, was called to a service mission due to ongoing health challenges. In addition to supporting the Gospel Library app, Sister Juarez provides leadership and training to new service missionaries and has grown tremendously from the experience.
    So, they're working in a customer service call center?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    This was awesome, but I'm not sure how I feel about some of the service missions:



    So, they're working in a customer service call center?
    I wouldn't call it a "call center" - most issues are submitted online through the apps themselves. They triage the issues, respond back via email with info or questions for additional details, work with the actual content producing departments to coordinate changes, etc. Those who serve service missions can choose the location they serve. In other words, they can serve at Church Office Building in the publishing department, they can serve at the Humanitarian Center, at the Distribution Center, at Welfare Square, Bishop's Storehouses, Special Needs Mutual, etc. They can serve some days of the week in one location and some days of the week in others.

    If there is someone with a physical condition that prevents them from lifting boxes or other things, the Church Office Building can be a great choice as a place to serve.

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    Can we have some folks serve full-time service missions on a certain football team now?

    Asking for a friend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    I wouldn't call it a "call center" - most issues are submitted online through the apps themselves. They triage the issues, respond back via email with info or questions for additional details, work with the actual content producing departments to coordinate changes, etc. Those who serve service missions can choose the location they serve. In other words, they can serve at Church Office Building in the publishing department, they can serve at the Humanitarian Center, at the Distribution Center, at Welfare Square, Bishop's Storehouses, Special Needs Mutual, etc. They can serve some days of the week in one location and some days of the week in others.

    If there is someone with a physical condition that prevents them from lifting boxes or other things, the Church Office Building can be a great choice as a place to serve.
    They never responded to me when I submitted an error in Gospel library. Jerks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    They never responded to me when I submitted an error in Gospel library. Jerks!
    Well, you're already a member. No real benefit to responding to your issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Well, you're already a member. No real benefit to responding to your issue.
    Retention is also important. Now I'm offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    I think it says a kid can switch if he/she comes home for health reasons, what if the kid is out there and just wants to switch because they feel like they would enjoy it more and get more out of it than a proselyting mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    So, they're working in a customer service call center?
    No higher calling than working in call centers.
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    We have a service missionary in our ward and last Sunday I attended a former ward and they have two there. It seems to be getting more common.

    I don't know if I could have handled being a service missionary versus a full time proselyting missionary. On my mission I was 100% focused on the work for two solid years. Putting in 20-35 hours per week at a family history center or supporting Gospel Apps, but otherwise living at home in the same environment where you've lived your whole life sounds like a rather different experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    This was awesome, but I'm not sure how I feel about some of the service missions:



    So, they're working in a customer service call center?
    That is really stretching the definition of service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    Retention is also important. Now I'm offended.
    You need to get in touch with the Retention department. They're the ones who are authorized to provide the new-member discounts to current members. Push them hard enough, and they may offer 25% off tithing for a year.

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    Can we get full-time service missionaries to clean the chapels? ...and the temples too I guess. Sign-ups went around today in quorum to pick up 8pm-midnight temple cleaning shifts on a handful of weekdays this month or next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Can we get full-time service missionaries to clean the chapels? ...and the temples too I guess. Sign-ups went around today in quorum to pick up 8pm-midnight temple cleaning shifts on a handful of weekdays this month or next.
    Yeah, these full-time service missions give some kids valuable on-the-job training. We have a kid in our ward do a service mission at the local bishop's store house. After his mission he got a job at a grocery store stocker given his experience stocking the shelves of the store house. We make it a point to favor the grocery store he works at so we can see the huge smile on his face. He suffers a bit from autism but can tell you the exact shelve location and position of any item in the store, even by the brand. I test him every time we see him and he hasn't failed me yet. He loves his job. Don't under estimate the value of these service missions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yeah, these full-time service missions give some kids valuable on-the-job training. We have a kid in our ward do a service mission at the local bishop's store house. After his mission he got a job at a grocery store stocker given his experience stocking the shelves of the store house. We make it a point to favor the grocery store he works at so we can see the huge smile on his face. He suffers a bit from autism but can tell you the exact shelve location and position of any item in the store, even by the brand. I test him every time we see him and he hasn't failed me yet. He loves his job. Don't under estimate the value of these service missions.
    My son did a two-year service mission and it was a fantastic experience. First year was at the LDS motion picture studio building movie sets, etc. Second year was at the local bishop storehouse stocking shelves and filling orders. He matured, learned to work hard, and learned to love service.
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