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  • #496
    Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
    If a team isn't good enough to win their conference, they don't deserve to be in a playoff.
    Stop being obtuse. If every conference were 10 teams and played a regular season round robin, your point might have merit. As it stands, sometimes a top 8 team is a victim of a stacked division or a conference with another of the 8 best teams. That doesn’t mean they’re not one of the 8 best teams.

    Personally I want the 8 best teams in the playoff. Perhaps you don’t.

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    • #497
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
      Stop being obtuse. If every conference were 10 teams and played a regular season round robin, your point might have merit. As it stands, sometimes a top 8 team is a victim of a stacked division or a conference with another of the 8 best teams. That doesn’t mean they’re not one of the 8 best teams.

      Personally I want the 8 best teams in the playoff. Perhaps you don’t.

      I want the regular season and conference championships to mean something. Why should a team who wins a conference championship be left out while a team that they may have defeated and didn't win their division be included? Personally, I like the current format of only 4 teams because under that scenario, neither team probably gets into the playoff.
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      • #498
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        Stop being obtuse. If every conference were 10 teams and played a regular season round robin, your point might have merit. As it stands, sometimes a top 8 team is a victim of a stacked division or a conference with another of the 8 best teams. That doesn’t mean they’re not one of the 8 best teams.

        Personally I want the 8 best teams in the playoff. Perhaps you don’t.


        It’s crazy to me that this is even debatable.
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        • #499
          The simplest and best way to do 8 team playoff is

          P5 winners
          3 wild card games where best g5 gets a home game vs lowest ranked of remaining wild cards teams and the other 2 at homers of the highest ranked. You do this on thanksgiving weekend.
          The next week is the quarter finals at home of the highest rank then have the remaining 4 play as they do now.

          This way everyone plays the same amount of games
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          • #500
            Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
            I want the regular season and conference championships to mean something. Why should a team who wins a conference championship be left out while a team that they may have defeated and didn't win their division be included? Personally, I like the current format of only 4 teams because under that scenario, neither team probably gets into the playoff.
            Regular season will mean something (see above). The idea that the regular season won’t mean as much is the biggest straw man I’ve ever seen.

            Also, we can get rid of the conference championship games. They already don’t mean anything half the time. Put the best 8 teams in the playoff. It’s just not that complicated.
            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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            • #501
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Different team. Lol.
              Put the BYU team that beat Wisconsin in the playoffs. That was a different team.
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              • #502
                I like the system as it is. The best team still wins and Ohio State fans whine while trying to justify getting destroyed by a B1G creampuff.

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                • #503
                  Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                  Regular season will mean something (see above). The idea that the regular season won’t mean as much is the biggest straw man I’ve ever seen.
                  Of course the regular season would still mean something. I'm in favor of expanding the playoffs. But let's not pretend we don't lose anything in favor of something we want more. I have no doubt that you would draw the line somewhere, as far as how many teams to include in the playoffs.

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                  • #504
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                    Regular season will mean something (see above). The idea that the regular season won’t mean as much is the biggest straw man I’ve ever seen.

                    Also, we can get rid of the conference championship games. They already don’t mean anything half the time. Put the best 8 teams in the playoff. It’s just not that complicated.
                    This is the way to do it. Get rid of conference championship games. I like a plan that will limit the power of the conference. This would be a death knell to many conferences. When I was a kid, there were many independent teams (Penn State, Florida State, etc.), I imagine there would be more under a structure like this.

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                    • #505
                      Originally posted by USUC View Post
                      This is the way to do it. Get rid of conference championship games. I like a plan that will limit the power of the conference. This would be a death knell to many conferences. When I was a kid, there were many independent teams (Penn State, Florida State, etc.), I imagine there would be more under a structure like this.
                      Unless a school is Notre Dame or BYU, the better money from TV will be in conferences. Not to mention the difficulty of scheduling when not in a conference. The future structure will probably be in super conferences rather than independence. I like CCGs because I view them as the first round of a playoff. I also enjoy the week-to-week playoff nature of conferences schedules.

                      I think getting rid of CCGs would be a big mistake. It would lead to power/legacy teams in the same conference not playing each other so as to not jeopardize their playoff chances. Like in the good 'ol days of the SEC when Alabama and Georgia did not play each other and watched as Oklahoma-Nebraska and Michigan-Ohio St. would knock each other out of contention for the national championship.
                      Last edited by Paperback Writer; 12-30-2018, 09:38 PM.
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                      • #506
                        When they expand to 8 teams...and the SEC gets 3 teams in, people will lose their minds.

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                        • #507
                          I am still trying to figure out how Jeff Monken does it. I think Black Knights start out ranked in the top 25. What could be if they knock off Michigan in the Big House......

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                          • #508
                            Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                            When they expand to 8 teams...and the SEC gets 3 teams in, people will lose their minds.
                            Thank you.

                            The rest of y’all need to stop kidding yourselves and act like you’re paying attention to the sport. If the committee picks eight teams to play, you’ll have three SEC teams, two teams from the current season’s trendiest “second-best” conference, and a crap shoot for the other three spots. And in the end you’ll get essentially the same result, but with an even more tedious bowl season than we have now.

                            Any suggestion to expand without reference to conference championships is seriously delusional.

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                            • #509
                              Originally posted by Babs View Post
                              Thank you.

                              The rest of y’all need to stop kidding yourselves and act like you’re paying attention to the sport. If the committee picks eight teams to play, you’ll have three SEC teams, two teams from the current season’s trendiest “second-best” conference, and a crap shoot for the other three spots. And in the end you’ll get essentially the same result, but with an even more tedious bowl season than we have now.

                              Any suggestion to expand without reference to conference championships is seriously delusional.

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                              • #510
                                strongly disagree wrt alleged tediousness of bowl season
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